Does anyone care about the debate between Biden and Sanders?

[Happyhippychick]

I couldn't care less if Joe pooped his pants onstage, nothing and I mean nothing will keep me from voting for him in November. I don't care about the issues, I just want a grown-up. There's nothing about Joe that has ever offended me, I'll take him.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

1. Maybe Bernie thinks this is his last hurrah

He will most likely get destroyed at the polls on Tuesday, so let him have this. Biden will have no problem defending himself and the party.

[zackymilly]

3. Yep. Bernie is going to let loose with everything he has at the debate.

I hope his heart can take it.

[Funtatlaguy]

11. Silver lining. It's Good practice for Joe for the general.

[More_Cowbell]

16. There's no way Trump will participate in a debate

He's too far gone. Biden won't need the practice.

[Jarqui]

47. Agree. Trump's bone spurs can't handle such a thing nt

[wprice2]

54. Trump will win every debate unfortunately

When you debate someone as immature and a cult leader, you really can't lose. Hillary in a way "lost" every debate with this idiot just because he is so base, infantile and likes working the audience. The media adored and lavished him.

He will do the same with Joe, but people really should not concentrate on any Presidential debates to "win." Just GOTV -everybody!!

[Jarqui]

66. Very different situation this time

The "fake news" knows a lot more about him

Now, he has a record he has to defend. Probably 20,000 lies to defend by then.

Joe goes into that debate loaded with zingers and starts pushing Trump's buttons. We know Trump's volcanic because he can't handle much. He's a mental midget. Call him on his BS and he'll go off. It was harder for Hillary because he had no governing record.

He can't end the press conference - he's got to stand there and take it.

You get him like that and he'll blow. Biden will win the debate and Trump will be exposed for the uncool fool he is - to many of his own supporters.

Hillary had a lot more baggage going into her debates. Joe doesn't have that. Not nearly as much. Hillary was a woman. Trump a misogynist. Biden is the candidate Trump fears most.

Trump is not the candidate of change this time. He's the incumbent.
He's got a nasty temper. Time for America to see it.

I think Trump will find some petty excuse not to debate before the three debates are done.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

88. I think you are right. Debating someone with no record

whatsoever takes a completely different approach. It would be interesting to rewatch HRC debates with him. And that was when we were still living in the "dignified gloves still on world" with him.

If there is a Joe/Donny debate, I hope they don't try to make Joe recall a lot of numbers. Just main themes..."that is NOT true, it is much higher or much lower" said with utter incredulity will do.

And hope like hell someone digs into what trump has reversed on regulations. Gold mine. And you know trump hasn't a clue about what he actually got rid of. Like Obama's reg that stopped coal companies from dumping sludge with known cancer causing materials into our water. Mentioning this would really catch him flat footed

[maxsolomon]

73. "The media adored and lavished (praise on) him"?

Where did you see that? I get your frustration with "Media", but I never heard or read that. I don't watch the Right Wing Noise Machine, however.

"Welcome to DU".

[NurseJackie]

19. It is. Last campaign. Last debate. Last dance. Last chance for romance to night.

Someone left his cake out in the rain and it took so long to bake it and he'll never have that recipe again.

[LuvNewcastle]

23. Somebody has spent a little time in gay bars.

[NurseJackie]

29. LOL!

I raised two gay boys.

[LuvNewcastle]

33. Well they were lucky to have a cool mom.

[zackymilly]

31. Really? I thought those were discos where I was dancing to that music! n/t

[LuvNewcastle]

32. Was it raining men in those places?

[NCProgressive]

38. ...

[C Moon]

44. He thought Tuesday was going to be his big comeback. Now he hopes the debate will do it?

I'm starting to think his ego is at play here—and it's more important to him than what is best for our dying nation.

His followers are already spreading GOP lead phrases against Biden—and many are posting them here. I'm seeing them on in meme format on FB by Bernie people, as well.

The GOP is using Bernie, I wish people would stop and think before they post that bull.

[Thekaspervote]

2. No.. don't care..don't want to hear sanders spout off about anything..he should drop out!

[emmaverybo]

4. Me too. I hope it gives Biden a chance to lay out his pragmatic and progressive policies and to

reiterate his far superior qualifications, experience, and job-specific knowledge, so superior he
will have to go a little easy so as not to make Sanders seem sympathetic for lack of them and of accomplishment too.

[William769]

5. agree 100%

[yaesu]

6. only if MSM doesn't control it like the other debates. nt

[Just_Vote_Dem]

7. Yeah, 30 seconds and it's "OK, Thank you!"

WTF....

[HarlanPepper]

18. So basically you want Bernie to moderate the debate

Anything short of that is the “MSM” controlling it. Understood

[Demguy81]

8. I just want to see a rational

and spirited debate between two great democrats, without an audience. Hopefully that will cut down on the bombast, and they can focus on policy.

[lillypaddle]

35. Who is the other democrat

besides Joe?

[Aquaria]

83. Well, if you wanted a great debate between two Democrats

You will be sorely disappointed.

The last chance for that was when Warren was still in the race.

[customerserviceguy]

9. I'll admit

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if Joe Biden can do well in a one-on-one debate with Bernie throwing everything he can at Joe. We know Trump isn't going to hold back on anything if the two of them debate.

[Awsi Dooger]

17. Same...although it also gives the Trump camp an idea how to prepare for Biden

Biden doesn't need to respond to every point. That's where many debaters get in trouble while under attack. Just stick to your positives and make them in brief memorable style. When I'd host the debate watching parties it was amazing how frequently they responded preferably to a short response after a longwinded barrage.

[Codeine]

10. The race is over.

This is just desperation; hoping that Biden will step on his dick. He won’t.

[radical noodle]

12. I probably won't watch

but if I do, it won't mean anything. I've already cast my early vote in Florida for Joe.

[TryLogic]

13. I'm not at all interested. We have heard from both of them. We know where they stand.

I think the only potential result is some nastiness that will come across badly. I hate that Biden attacks Sanders' ideas as totally unrealistic. I wish they could show some cooperation toward problem solving in the areas of health care, college debts, etc. I don't want to even imagine how this debate is likely to go.

[Demsrule86]

14. No fuck the debate.

[AlexSFCA]

15. we've heard enough. Cancel all debates.

[Gothmog]

20. I really do not give a darn about this debate

[kydemo]

21. Just got a text from the Bernie campaign

asking for my support in the upcoming primaries. I complemented her on her service, passion and advocacy, but my wife and I were both committed Biden voters. And the Bernie campaign need not text us anymore. She said that our names would be taken off the list but she recommended us watch the debate on Sunday because we might change our minds. I told her we would be watching but nothing in the debate would change our minds because a debate was just one type of measurement. We had already decided based upon Bden's years of achieving things that Bernie only talked about. Action over rhetoric.

[LuvNewcastle]

25. I got a call from a Bernie supporter yesterday;

we had our primary yesterday. I told her I had already voted for Biden, but thanks anyway. She said "okay, well you have a good evening," and I said "you too," and we hung up. Even though I don't support Bernie, I hated to tell her that. It's hard to campaign for a losing candidate, and I felt like I was hurting her feelings.

[BeckyDem]

22. Biden is grateful I am sure.

[IluvPitties]

24. Not really. It shouldn't even happen.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Nope haven't watched any of them. These are not true debates.

[brokephibroke]

27. Yes, a great deal

It’s warm up for trump. I hope bernie is tough on Joe.

[marble falls]

28. Nope.Bernie's done.

[still_one]

30. If Trump isn't enough to convince someone to vote for the Democratic nominee, then NOTHING will

[Historic NY]

34. We really don't need any more debates....

I resent the fact the Sanders want to prolong and then tell Biden what progressives want. To the victor goes the spoils. I'm sure Joe Biden will deal with the issues when they come up. Now Sanders needs to muzzle his pit bulls, whose only mission is to attack Democrats. Especially Thelma & Lousie.

[BluNoMatterHu]

49. He won't.

He didn’t think about what’s good for the party in 2016 and he won’t do it now. I was once a Bernie supporter but I saw how mean and selfish he can be. I get nothing but good vibes from Biden. He’s tried and true!

[NCProgressive]

36. I don't care for the debate

It is a trap to make Biden make some fatal gaffe so they can either dream of defeating him or weakening him to get a bargaining position which they currently don't have.

[bS7n40nwc1]

37. "I don't care about the issues"

This is surely among the most dispiriting things I've read in a political context. What's left to politics if the issues are stripped away? Just naked tribalism? We can do better than that.

[SilasSouleII]

67. Naked tribalism is what tRump has created

Our issues really don't matter if he is re-elected. Laser focus on getting Joe elected supersedes any issue right now.

[marble falls]

74. If Biden and Sanders were diametrically opposed, maybe. I'm looking for a good Democrat ...

you aren't suggesting either one of them of not being a good Democrat, are you???

[NNadir]

93. Believe it or not, the reason most of us here...

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...are Democrats is very much involved with issues as opposed to cults of personality.

I think we understand issues and vote accordingly.

Some of us object to being told how stupid we are because we didn't vote for an outsider who burst into our party to lecture us on what's wrong with us.

[redstatebluegirl]

102. Thank you for saying what I was thinking.

[Bc804]

39. No

As of a week ago, the entire Republican party is gearing up to defeat Joe Biden. But by all means, let's have Biden "explain himself" to the landslide loser who spent the last year shrinking his voting base because he still hasn't been heard

[zaj]

40. Yes, Sanders did Biden a huge favor this morning...

... he subtly setup the debate as an opportunity for Biden to be able to win over Sanders voters.

It will matter to success in uniting the party.

[hay rick]

41. I'm good with Joe.

Joe wasn't my first, second or third pick- but they were all gone so I voted for Joe. I'm also ok with Bernie- I just think he's toast.

[pamdb]

42. debate

I just want Joe not to lose his cool, he's got a bit of a temper it seems.

And please, cut out the "man" it's sooooooo 50's. I am so so glad he's back, we both voted for him in the michigan primary. From the beginning I've said Biden and Harris. As much as I'd like to see Harris slice and dice the big orange fuck off in a debate, I'll take her taking on pious Pence.

[jalan48]

43. Yes. I want to see how Biden can handle one on one.

[Perseus]

57. Yes, I would think that people would be interested in that

I mean, if he shits his pants with Sanders, imagine what he will do when he is in front of the creature...I think it is a good test, not sure why some people think its not important.

[jalan48]

62. Perhaps they are worried about how he will perform.

[SilasSouleII]

70. Worried about how Bernie will perform

Waving his arms, wagging his finger, peeling his eyes...

Joe will be just fine.

[jalan48]

79. I hope so. No where to hide this time.

[mysteryowl]

72. I want to see it too.

I want to see the differences in positions.

[mountain grammy]

45. Here's what I want

I’d like to see Joe and Bernie sitting at a table telling Americans what trump is doing to our government and our country. Point by point, agency by agency, tell people what’s happening and how it will affect their lives. Describe the people he’s appointed. Name names, describing their backgrounds and things they’ve said.
Then describe how we can repair the huge damages done to our democracy and our planet. Just two old statesmen telling it like it is. My dream.

Forward!

[drray23]

46. If anything it will help joe biden.

Bernie will predictably rattle his usual stump speech. Joe will be in command of the facts and put to rest the notion that he is cognitively challenged.

[amuse bouche]

48. I wish Sanders had dropped out and got behind Joe

I will watch

[58Sunliner]

50. No, I don't. And for all I know one of them could be asymptomatic.

For the sake of everyone it should not happen. That Bernie wants to insist is BS. We are having a pandemic. Get real about our priorities. Bernie's are questionable at this point.

[Skittles]

51. we we already know everything Bernie will say

really not much point to it

[slingsam]

52. well...fuck yeah....I care.

I expect Senator Sanders.....to concede.....on National TV...…...graciously.....on Sunday and to announce, that he is throwing his entire support......to President-Elect Joseph R. Biden, to beat, Donald Jackass Trump...….like a drum.

Would that not be heroic? And Noble.

Joey....is the only one I know....who can effectively tell.....the Jackass....how full of shit, he is!!!!

And Malarkey!


And Bernie...…...is a good man.
Let's all...together....
DUMP TRUMP!

[SunSeeker]

53. I am just disgusted that Bernie is insisting on it. What is the point?

Stir more shit? Do we really need that?

Bernie should have shown some class and suspended his campaign today.

[OverBurn]

55. I like Sanders, but Biden has the best chance to beat Evil.

I'd be for Sander if he had a chance to win, I don't believe a self proclaimed Socialist can win in America. Personally, to me it's just a word. We are a "socialist" country to start with IMO.

I still blame the butt hurt Sanders supporters for letting Trump win last time. They refused to vote because Hillary won the nomination.

[Aquaria]

84. They did worse than that

12% voted for him.

Even more voted third party.

Must be nice to be so privileged that they can throw women, minorities, LGBTs, workers, the sick, the elderly, the poor, the environment, education and etc under the bus to maintain their ideological "purity."

[ashredux]

56. NO

[herding cats]

58. Most people have made up their minds.

Hearing a rerun of their campaign issues isn't going to change them at this point.

I know some are saying the COVID-19 outbreak will help Bernie, but I'm not seeing it happening. The core of his supporters are of an age they aren't that concerned about it. It just seems ghoulish to even go there.

[dansolo]

91. No, the covid-19 outbreak won't help Bernie

Joe will be much more reassuring. People want leadership. I don't think the idea of dismantling our entire healthcare system during a global pandemic is going to appeal to anyone.

[Mme. Defarge]

59. Pas moi.

[treestar]

60. No, it will only be the pundits

jumping on something to make it a horse race, which means they will attack Biden with anything they can come up with. They need some reason to make an exciting narrative that Bernie can come back and win it. This debate serves no purpose but to get them ratings and something to bloviate about.

[CaptainTruth]

61. Nope, not me.

[MyNameGoesHere]

63. Only if they change the name

To "The Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. is going to be the nominee and that other guy is going to be there" debate.

[Martin Eden]

64. Yes, I care.

Maybe not for the reason you think.

I care about how our candidates are presented to the public, and I especially want to see unity on the central task of defeating Trump.

If this debate is anything like the last one, the moderators will try to to elicit controversy and personal attacks.

Kudos to the candidate(s) who rise above that bait and emphasize the central task -- including how much both wings of our party have in common compared to their "colleagues" across the aisle.

[Ferrets are Cool]

65. This debate will do NOTHING but hurt our chances of winning in November.

Slinging mud is not good for the party. But then again, one of the ones on stage is NOT in my party.

[OldManTarHeel]

68. We Don't Need No Stinkin Debate Because the Voters Have Already Decided

#GOJoe

[elleng]

69. Yes, I am eager to hear our next President speak coherently,

ASAP.

[Evolve Dammit]

71. Wow. Just fucking wow. This is some of the most un-democratic crap I've ever witnessed.

You really think no debate is what democracy is about?? Some of these posts are pathetic.

[Aquaria]

85. People tend not to respect sore losers

Whose self-serving pride refuses to let them concede a loss in a gracious way.

Get used to it.

[Evolve Dammit]

109. As I previously posted, it's not over. Get used to it.

[Happyhippychick]

89. No, what's undemocratic is trying to divide the Democratic party when you know you can't win

[USALiberal]

90. FFS If two dems debating divides the party we are done anyway. nt

[Happyhippychick]

92. No, 2 Dems debating is not what is dividing the party. One independent refusing to accept reality is

[USALiberal]

94. If Joe can't deal with a debate with Bernie then we are in fucking trouble. Nt

[Happyhippychick]

95. What are you really concerned about? I'm not worried, I just think it's pointless and divisive.

[USALiberal]

96. Good prep work IMO. Nt

[Happyhippychick]

97. Prep for what? He's going to be the nominee. He has been in gov't for decades. You think one

debate is going to move the needle?

[USALiberal]

98. No, but good experience for Joe. Nt

[Evolve Dammit]

108. It is not over. There is a democratic process at work here.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

75. NO. These two need to work out their differences and get back to us. What does Joe want from

Bernie, what does Bernie want from Joe.

WORK IT OUT GUYS. iTS not my job to figure it out for you.

[doc03]

76. No not really interested. I have heard all of Bernie's big plans a hundred times but

none of them will ever get passed unless we had some kind of super majority in the House and Senate.
I just want an adult in the Whitehouse.

[LizBeth]

77. Irrelevant. Voters has spoken. Sanders lost.

[onetexan]

82. Yes, they should cancel debate altogether

[njhoneybadger]

78. Cancel the fucking thing

Let Bernie debate Tulsi Gabbard.

[Happy Hoosier]

80. Not even a little. NT

[Tarheel_Dem]

81. Nope, cuz it doesn't change anything for Sanders. The math is what the math is. n/t

[alittlelark]

86. No. n/t

[obamanut2012]

87. No -- I rarely care about debates, period anyway

But this one? No.

[Iamaartist]

99. K&R..been with Joe day one...nothing could change our minds..either...

We voted for joe in Mich...

[aikoaiko]

100. Of course. I try to be civically engaged.

[Tenngal]

101. Waste of time...........

Joe Biden needs to work on Trump, not Sanders. Sanders has lost.

[marble falls]

107. Bidden is a great streetfighter and Trump is a bully who folds like a cheap suit if he's directly ..

confronted. He does not handle face to face conflict at all. All Joe's got to do is be Joe.

[CatMor]

103. No ...

I pretty much know where they stand already. I am for Joe Biden all the way and it won't change.

[pattyloutwo]

104. Yes

I care, it’s good practice - which Biden needs; I’m surprised at how many here are against it.

[LAS14]

105. I do. I want to see if Sanders is smart and uses it as a platform to push..

... for his ideas and stays far away from attacking Biden personally.

[Gothmog]

106. If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage

sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/

Sanders’s remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. It’s not clear why the Biden camp should “give” Sanders anything.

Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....

Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left — hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.

Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sunday’s debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.

[Devil Child]

110. I care n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

111. Nope.

[crono]

112. now that sanders has

officially dropped out, when will the first debate between Biden and trump be?