The Cannabis Landrace Strain thread.

[MohRokTah]

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Any old hippies out of the 70s posting here?

Remember those great bags you got in the seventies to early eighties?

Let's name some:

Columbian Gold
Columbian Punta Rojo
Acapulco Gold
Oaxacan
Thai Stick
Chocolate Thai
Jucy Fruit Thai
Vietnamese Dalat
Durban Poison
Jamaican Lambs Bread

Name some of your favorites

[TheNutcracker]

1. Red bud!

[immoderate]

2. Columbian Cheba-cheba was the best I ever had (1970)

I also saw

Kona Gold
Maui Wowie
Alaskan Thunderfuck
Mexico Michoacan
Panamanian Red

I'd give anything for a handful of those Cheba seeds!

--imm

[MohRokTah]

4. A friend in college who lived in the Canal Zone brought back a pound of Panama Red

after Christmas break.

Lasted months.

Outstanding herb.

[immoderate]

9. My story, Early 70s, my dealer, making a house call, reached into his attache case...

and produced a bag, that he offered as a bargain, of seedy shake. And it was a consistent rusty red. It was seedy (wish I had those) but the shake was from the processing of the buds, and was quite good.

Bonus:

--imm

[Blue_In_AK]

25. It's been rumored that there is still some

Thunderfuck being grown out in the Matanuska Valley. It's legendary around here.

[scarletwoman]

29. Back when I lived in Willow, we had some great connections.

And what we got was Matanuska Thunderfuck. I remember it very, very fondly...

[Blue_In_AK]

30. I remember it from the '70s and '80s

I've been growing my own for so long now I don't know what's out on the market. I guess we'll be finding out once they get the commercial regulations worked out here.

[scarletwoman]

31. I've got my fingers crossed for you all.

Btw, I'm seriously contemplating flying up to Anchorage to see my firstborn later this summer - if I can afford it.

I'll keep you posted - I'd love to meet up!

[Blue_In_AK]

32. I would love that so much.

We're going to be around pretty much except for maybe some short camping trips. We're going to be down on the peninsula for Salmonfest August 1-2 (Emmylou Harris and Rodney Crowell performing) and I've got a photo excursion to the north slope for auroras from August 27-31, but other than that, nothing is set in stone.

Keep me posted.

[brush]

3. Michoacan. nt

[F4lconF16]

5. Durban Poison is still a thing.

I had a couple grams a month or so ago. Good stuff, though not my usual kind of strain.

[MohRokTah]

6. The Durban Poison of today is not the Durban Poison of 1976

I was there and I've had both.

DP has been contaminated by Indica crosses today. It was commercialized in the 80s and the lower ripening times by crossing with Indica was worth too much money.

The same holds true for most Mexican, Central American, and Columbian land races. There are few pure examples left.

[F4lconF16]

7. I'm sure it isn't.

Wish I could have tried the stuff back from the 70s. Thai Stick in particular I've heard was really good.

[MohRokTah]

8. There are still seeds around.

You've got to have connections to get seeds of the original land races, though.

Seed crops are worth more than bud crops these days for those in the know.

[ohheckyeah]

10. I don't remember

what it was called but we got red hash that kicked ass.

My Dad wanted to try pot on his 90th birthday. He didn't make it - he died this morning just months from 89.

[DiverDave]

11. Man, that was unexpected

I'm so sorry.

Please take care of yourself. When my mom passed I quit eating, brooded for weeks.
Ended up in the hospital with pneumonia was told I was pretty close to death.
Don't do what I did.

[MohRokTah]

12. We used to get some Lebanese blonde hash every year.

I've got a line on some Lebanese seeds, too.

Sorry for the loss of your father.

[safeinOhio]

13. The best smoke of late 60s and early 70s

Was a black Afgan hash with lines of of white mold in it. Had to be very careful not to take in too much and try to hold it. You'd start a cough that started out slow and ended up sounding like a machine gun.

[MohRokTah]

14. There was a side consequence to the Afghan war.

I know of at least a dozen pure landrace strains of Afghani that made their way to the US.

The highest quality hashish from them is always dark brown to black.

[tishaLA]

15. Lamb's Bread is still around

And MAN do I love it. I'd smoke it for its amazing taste alone.

[MohRokTah]

16. Tough to find the pure sativa, though.

Like all of the old sativas, growers no longer want to wait the 4.5 to 6 months it takes to properly ripen a good sativa, so they interbreed with indica to shorten the ripening time to 1.5 to 2.5 months.

[Go Vols]

17. Try here

http://www.alchimiaweb.com/en/landrace-tag-33/

[MohRokTah]

18. Almost all are hybrids. eom

[Go Vols]

19. Title of page:Landrace cannabis seeds

most are pure breeding 100% either or.

Maybe you were redirected to another page,as the first choice is Colombian Gold 100% sativa.

[MohRokTah]

21. There are eight pages of allegedly landrace strains.

Most are hybrids. Read the descriptions.

Yes, that Columbian gold *might* be a landrace strain.

Emphasis on *might*. More than likely it's a Columbian Gold plant that was crossed with the Dutch standby, Skunk#1 (which is a cross between Mexican, Columbian, and Afghani, at about a 75% sativa/25% indica). The Skunk#1 provides a stability and a hybrid vigor as well as allows it to be grown indoors more easily with a quicker ripening time. True Columbian Gold typically takes between 16 and 24 weeks of flowering to ripen. The listed time is 10 - almost 13 weeks on that strain.

The underground cannabis seed trade is not known for it's accuracy in describing genetic backgrounds. You have to be very cautious and also be skeptical of everything. I know World of Seeds (the seedbank that allegedly breeds that Columbian Gold) has a bad reputation on some of its landrace strains, especially since they provide feminized "landrace" seeds, while another company called The Real Seed Company is known for traveling to various areas of the world to collect the pure landrace seeds they provide (which is a different lineup every year). Currently, most of their lineup is Himalayan based Charas strains, thought there is a Lebanese hash strain in their current lineup. You never know what they'll collect next year.

[Go Vols]

23. Your preaching to the choir here

I know quite well you buy a pig in a poke with most seed companies,but its just a little money and time to find out.

and SK#1 is a Columbian Gold x Acapulco Gold/Afgani,or so Nevil Schoenmakers told me back in '86.

[eloydude]

20. Durban Poison is still around

My dispensary often dispenses that, plus their best strain (according to Culture) is New York City Diesel.

I've had the pleasure of smoking it, and it's good stuff.

[MohRokTah]

22. Durban Poison became heavily commercialized in the 80s.

Because shortening the ripening time equated to more money more quickly, the original pure sativa was adulterated with indica.

There are pockets of the pure sativa Durban Poison, but you cannot depend upon the strain name to know it's the pure original.

I know some guys who are currently attempting to look at the DNA of as many strains as possible. They have access to some of the original landrace strains before hybrids became so popular in order to drive more financial gains and they are attempting to compile a complete database of genetic information for the strains due to the multiple poly-hybrid nature of today's cannabis.

It's rare to find anything pure these days. Many heirloom varieties are truly lost forever.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying what is sold as Durban Poison is not good. In fact, all of the newer Durban Poison I've imbibed has been tremendous. I just can tell it's been adulterated with indica since the late 70s. I have had an example of an illicit Durban Poison about a decade ago that was still pure, though, so I know it's out there somewhere. It's quite possible what you get is also a pure Durban Poison, too.

[Gregorian]

28. This post has just sent me down a nostalgic path...

The 70's. Those times when someone says that they have something that is so special we all have to get together to try it. I'll never know what they were. But I had forgotten the times in different places with different people where something amazing came around. I never thought to even...well I didn't even know what sativa or indica was yet.

[Blue_In_AK]

24. That's funny,

I was just talking about that on another thread.

The Acapulco Gold was my favorite. It had such a clean, clear taste, and felt great.

[Lint Head]

26. India Black

[MohRokTah]

27. One haven't thought of since the 80s, Jamaican Sugarbush

Always covered in crystals and seedy as heck. Sometimes called Collie.