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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:15 PM Sep 2016

Technology can track an individual bullet back to the purchaser!

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160830/englewood/every-bullet-flying-illinois-should-be-tracked-lawmakers-say

Every Bullet Flying In Illinois Should Be Tracked, Lawmakers Say


ENGLEWOOD — It's time to track all the bullets flying in Illinois, local leaders say.

State Rep. Sonya Harper (D-Chicago) announced proposed legislation Tuesday that would require all ammunition sold in Illinois to contain serial numbers.

“Since we are having such a hard time tracking the flow of illegal guns into our communities, let’s start tracking the bullets,” Harper said at a media conference at U.S. Bank, 815 W. 63rd St., in Englewood. “More than 2,600 people have been shot in the city of Chicago so far this year, many of them children in my own community. Being able to track fired bullets directly back to the seller will help law enforcement agencies target those who are distributing ammunition illegally.”


I can hear heads exploding at the NRA!

Sounds a bit daunting to do this, but there is a company doing it as I type this. Ammunition Coding Systems http://www.ammocoding.com/index.php can laser inscribe a serial number on both the bullet and the casing and include that number in the bar code that sellers currently use to track inventory. Individual bullets can be tracked from manufacture to final sale without any specialized equipment or training, just a good magnifying glass. Each bullet in a box has the same serial number which is incorporated into the bar code for that box. When either a bullet or casing is found the local police can contact ACS and track the sale back to an individual sale.

From the ACS FAQ page:

Consider the following, a drive by shooting that does not result in injuries or deaths yet bullets and shell casings are left behind; or firearm vandalism where property may be destroyed or damaged. ACS would prove to be a very useful and effective tool in preventing future crimes by apprehending those individuals responsible before a more serious crime is committed.

All too often, federal and state fish and game investigators discover disturbing evidence of illegal poaching. The evidence, most often, is only the carcass of a rare or endangered animal or bird. By using ACS to trace recovered ballistic evidence, fish and game authorities will be able to make serious headway in preventing future violations.

Homeland security is not just a national concern but has now become a top priority of our state and local authorities. ACS technology could prove to be a valuable tool in tracing connections between potential terrorists and their suppliers.


In tests of the most popular handgun ammo, 200 rounds were fired and 181 were recovered with readable numbers after being fired through plywood, ballistic gel and other media.

California has background checks to buy ammunition and now Illinois is considering the same.

Looks like Chris Rock was on to something.

http://www.ammocoding.com/faqs.php ACS q&a page with how it works and other questions answered.


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Technology can track an individual bullet back to the purchaser! (Original Post) flamin lib Sep 2016 OP
But that's only a 90.5% success rate TheHound Sep 2016 #1
In Texas if I sell beer to an intoxicated person and they have an accident flamin lib Sep 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #3
I'm typing this very slowly 'cause you don't seem to read well. flamin lib Sep 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #5
If my dog gets loose and bites somebody, I'm the one in trouble. stone space Sep 2016 #6
 

TheHound

(17 posts)
1. But that's only a 90.5% success rate
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:36 PM
Sep 2016

And I hope we aren't sending people to prison based on a test that has a 10% (roughly) failure rate. Not to mention second-hand sales of ammo, theft of ammo, etc. The concept seems reasonable but the technology needs refinement.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
2. In Texas if I sell beer to an intoxicated person and they have an accident
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:48 PM
Sep 2016

they have two options: five years with no lead to the sale or two if they give up the salesperson who will get two years as well.

How many people will refuse to give me up?

Theft? Really? That's the best ya' got?

You're reaching way past your grasp here Hound.

Weak, weak, weak justification to have it your gunner way.

ETA:
How hard is it to understand that the technology can only link to identifiable ammunition and therefore the 10% failure rate CAN"T POSSIBLY INDICT AN INNOCENT PERSON.

Response to flamin lib (Reply #2)

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
4. I'm typing this very slowly 'cause you don't seem to read well.
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:57 PM
Sep 2016

IF THE AMMUNITION CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED IT CAN'T POSSIBLY SEND ANYONE TO JAIL.

The implication I get is that you are opposed to any technology that changes the status quo. Typical of gun rights advocates.

Response to flamin lib (Reply #4)

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
6. If my dog gets loose and bites somebody, I'm the one in trouble.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:36 AM
Sep 2016

I should keep as close track of my bullets as I do of my dog.

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