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The Hidden Costs of Concealed Arms, In Dollars and Deaths
Gun activists are pushing the new Republican-run Congress to get behind nationwide open-carry reciprocity, proposed legislation that would require every state to honor concealed-carry licenses issued by other states. That would allow people with licenses from states with lax gun laws to carry concealed arms anywhere in the country, regardless of the local gun laws. If such a bill became law, it would create a national system of federally mandated concealed carry.
The only trouble is, concealed carry costs us all dearly, in both money and lives.
Idaho universities, for example, have just discovered that they must spend millions of dollars a year to accommodate the states new concealed carry law.
And the Violence Policy Center, in a report released in February, documented 722 shooting deaths since May 2007 caused by private citizens who were licensed to carry concealed weapons. In every case documented, the killing had nothing at all to do with self-defense. Because there is no systematic gathering of data on such killings, the center gleaned the information from news reports and notes that the deaths are only an unknown fraction of the unreported number of similar incidents that routinely occur across the nation.
Gun nuts argue that allowing people to carry concealed arms anywhere they want, including in schools, churches and state legislatures, enables them to defend themselves and quickly confront threats when the police arent around. But statistics show that states with higher rates of gun ownership and weak gun violence prevention laws are not safer but instead have the highest overall gun death rates.
http://www.ceasefireusa.org/blog-entry/hidden-costs-concealed-arms-dollars-and-deaths
The only trouble is, concealed carry costs us all dearly, in both money and lives.
Idaho universities, for example, have just discovered that they must spend millions of dollars a year to accommodate the states new concealed carry law.
And the Violence Policy Center, in a report released in February, documented 722 shooting deaths since May 2007 caused by private citizens who were licensed to carry concealed weapons. In every case documented, the killing had nothing at all to do with self-defense. Because there is no systematic gathering of data on such killings, the center gleaned the information from news reports and notes that the deaths are only an unknown fraction of the unreported number of similar incidents that routinely occur across the nation.
Gun nuts argue that allowing people to carry concealed arms anywhere they want, including in schools, churches and state legislatures, enables them to defend themselves and quickly confront threats when the police arent around. But statistics show that states with higher rates of gun ownership and weak gun violence prevention laws are not safer but instead have the highest overall gun death rates.
http://www.ceasefireusa.org/blog-entry/hidden-costs-concealed-arms-dollars-and-deaths
By all means let's give Bubba the alcoholic wife-beater a permit to carry a concealed weapon and see how that turns out. What could possibly go wrong...?
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The Hidden Costs of Concealed Arms, In Dollars and Deaths (Original Post)
billh58
Aug 2016
OP
Like a snake eating it's own tail. More guns in public means we need more guns to
flamin lib
Aug 2016
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flamin lib
(14,559 posts)1. Like a snake eating it's own tail. More guns in public means we need more guns to
defend ourselves against more guns in public. It's completely insane.
billh58
(6,641 posts)2. The NRA and the gun manufacturers
promote an arms race between the "good guys" and the "bad guys" while they sell guns to both sides by using fear of other Americans as a marketing scheme.
Second Amendment absolutists and gun lobby apologists use archaic interpretations of the Constitution to spread fear of government tyranny and oppression as an excuse to stockpile arsenals of lethal weapons with no responsibility for their safe storage. The unfortunate result of this irresponsibility is "toddler accidentally shoots sister," or "crime gun traced to recent residential theft."
The whole manly-man "I'm part of a well regulated militia" gun culture is indeed -- completely insane.