History of Feminism
Related: About this forumMy daughter married a Men's Rights Activist
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Hilarious title, in actuality not so fun. My youngest daughter, my free spirit who traveled all over the country selling items at fairs, at markets, at concerts. My blunt one, with the most forgiving heart imaginable, met a guy. A musician, a guitarist in a cover band. She now says she was partying too hard to see the warning signs. We saw them, but we are experienced parents and we dont belabor the obvious. We only warn.
They got married, she got pregnant and from the time she was first pregnant this motherfucker tried to control the scenario. Threw a fit when she suggested an abortion because it was his baby when the baby was born, did the minimal amount he could to parent. Let her support him, spend food money on pot, and was a general all purpose piece of shit. I wont go into too much detail.
They lived by us and we could monitor the situation, until about 6 months ago, and while we thought the marriage had no chance, my daughter was all about stability and family and thought she could make it happen. Then he isolated her, lived by HIS parents and became increasingly emotionally, mentally and even physically abusive.
She got out. We helped her, and the story is still being written, but she landed on her feet and just won a major court victory.
So, where does the MRA stuff come in? Turns out my soon to be ex-son-in-law is a huge fan of THIS motherfucker:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Molyneux
A Voice For Men
Molyneux was a panelist at a 2014 Detroit conference held by the men's rights movement and manosphere organization, A Voice for Men. According to Jessica Roy of Time magazine, Molyneux argued that violence in the world is the result of how women treat their children, and that "If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, ... Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childhood experiences, which are all run by women."[23]
So man, I have to tell, while this SIL asshole was hitting all the boxes, starting with his libertarian politics, to his anti-public school stance (he thought he could home school my granddaughter when he is barely employable) I knew, just KNEW there was some MRA bullshit in their somewhere, but it wasnt confirmed until my daughter told me who he constantly listened to on Podcasts. Of all the disgusting MRA fuckers, it had to be Molyneux. Ugh. UGH.
Shes out, right now shes safe, baby is safe.
Thats as close as I EVER want to get to one of those people.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)Chin music
(24,000 posts)See how he measures up. What a grim reality. Sorry to hear it. Maybe some counseling while they are apart? What a messed upworld we have on the lower end of economics. Money doesnt buy happiness? The biggest bullshit lie the rich ever spun...well, one of the biggest.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)None of us want to see him fail like that as a father.
Chin music
(24,000 posts)The Mens Rights thing is a bunch of angry men. Just saying.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)He has a pathway to parenting well, it will be difficult, which his own fault, but I want to see him rise to the occasion and be a father. He can do it if he wants too.
Turbineguy
(38,285 posts)You seem to have dealt with that rather well.
I too am not in the habit of telling my Daughter how to live her life. And sometimes that is very difficult. And on the major things, she usually makes the right choices.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)My mantra is I will tell you what I think, but I will also mind my own business, which makes me a beloved mother in law with my other daughters husbands
My daughter literally said I NEED you to STOP minding your own business. Thats when I knew how bad it was. Shes very independent
kimbutgar
(23,164 posts)My first husband was a jerk like your daughters ex husband. My mother always used to tell me not to get pregnant and I didnt and escaped.
Thank GOD your daughter has great parents who were supportive like mine.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)I never married until my current husband, we blended a family and have been going strong ever since. I literally knew nothing about divorce, especially one as ugly as this. She got out and Im so glad I cant even express it properly
brer cat
(26,114 posts)I hope they both stay safe.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)Blue Owl
(54,592 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)It was classic, but we didnt hear about a lot of until she cut and run. The marriage lasted less than three years
MLAA
(18,570 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)CousinIT
(10,019 posts)He was believe it or not a Democrat.
UNTIL - Hillary was the nominee.
THEN - he became a staunch Trump supporter/Republican.
"I AIN'T VOTING FOR NO FEMINISM!" was his hue and cry.
Never dated.
Never married. (Thank God for the potential women he may have tortured)
Their attitudes towards females is that they are slaves. That they should expect to be raped at men's will. That they should expect forced childbearing. And that all the problems of the world are their fault. That they should have no choice about abortion. It should be legal BUT only males decide when a female can have one, and why. Never up to the female.
They are shockingly cruel, angry men who simply can not deal with female humanity. They are utterly indifferent to it. Most - are libertarians or republicans or the become so when faced with any women who may have power.
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)And he clearly does.
And I try to explain that to her, because he really did a number on her self esteem. One of the milder things he would say, like a starter word kit for shittery is The baby got her looks and my brainsimplying she was stupid, which far, far from the truth.
CousinIT
(10,019 posts)In case you or she are interested: http://www.escapeabuse.com - lots of good info there, not specifically dealing with MRAs but abusers in general - they all operate similarly.