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ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:44 PM May 2019

My daughter married a Men's Rights Activist

Last edited Wed May 8, 2019, 10:59 AM - Edit history (1)

Hilarious title, in actuality not so fun. My youngest daughter, my free spirit who traveled all over the country selling items at fairs, at markets, at concerts. My blunt one, with the most forgiving heart imaginable, met a guy. A musician, a guitarist in a cover band. She now says she was partying too hard to see the warning signs. We saw them, but we are experienced parents and we don’t belabor the obvious. We only warn.

They got married, she got pregnant and from the time she was first pregnant this motherfucker tried to control the scenario. Threw a fit when she suggested an abortion because it was “his baby” when the baby was born, did the minimal amount he could to parent. Let her support him, spend food money on pot, and was a general all purpose piece of shit. I won’t go into too much detail.

They lived by us and we could monitor the situation, until about 6 months ago, and while we thought the marriage had no chance, my daughter was all about stability and family and thought she could make it happen. Then he isolated her, lived by HIS parents and became increasingly emotionally, mentally and even physically abusive.

She got out. We helped her, and the story is still being written, but she landed on her feet and just won a major court victory.

So, where does the MRA stuff come in? Turns out my soon to be ex-son-in-law is a huge fan of THIS motherfucker:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Molyneux


A Voice For Men
Molyneux was a panelist at a 2014 Detroit conference held by the men's rights movement and manosphere organization, A Voice for Men. According to Jessica Roy of Time magazine, Molyneux argued that violence in the world is the result of how women treat their children, and that "If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, ... Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childhood experiences, which are all run by women."[23]


So man, I have to tell, while this SIL asshole was hitting all the boxes, starting with his “libertarian” politics, to his anti-public school stance (he thought he could home school my granddaughter when he is barely employable) I knew, just KNEW there was some MRA bullshit in their somewhere, but it wasn’t confirmed until my daughter told me who he constantly listened to on Podcasts. Of all the disgusting MRA fuckers, it had to be Molyneux. Ugh. UGH.

She’s out, right now she’s safe, baby is safe.

That’s as close as I EVER want to get to one of those people.

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My daughter married a Men's Rights Activist (Original Post) ismnotwasm May 2019 OP
Best wishes for you and your daughter. nt Atticus May 2019 #1
Thank you ismnotwasm May 2019 #5
Sounds like it's time for a divorce and some "man power" child support. Chin music May 2019 #2
Yeah we will see. Although he failed in court in a spectacular fashion ismnotwasm May 2019 #6
Of course not. Chin music May 2019 #8
Yeah they are ismnotwasm May 2019 #11
Wow! Turbineguy May 2019 #3
Right? ismnotwasm May 2019 #7
Leaving an abusive husband is brave kimbutgar May 2019 #4
Yeah, I have three daughters, and this is my first experience ismnotwasm May 2019 #9
I'm glad to hear that they are out. brer cat May 2019 #10
Thank you ismnotwasm May 2019 #12
I bet there was a whole lotta mansplainin' going on... Blue Owl May 2019 #13
Omg--you have no idea ismnotwasm May 2019 #15
Whew, so glad your daughter and grandchild are safe now. MLAA May 2019 #14
Thank you ismnotwasm May 2019 #16
My bro is one of these. They HATE women. Literally. CousinIT May 2019 #17
They do ismnotwasm May 2019 #18
I'm so glad she and the baby are safe now. CousinIT May 2019 #19
Thank you! ismnotwasm May 2019 #20

Chin music

(24,000 posts)
2. Sounds like it's time for a divorce and some "man power" child support.
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:52 PM
May 2019

See how he measures up. What a grim reality. Sorry to hear it. Maybe some counseling while they are apart? What a messed upworld we have on the lower end of economics. Money doesnt buy happiness? The biggest bullshit lie the rich ever spun...well, one of the biggest.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
6. Yeah we will see. Although he failed in court in a spectacular fashion
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:42 PM
May 2019

None of us want to see him fail like that as a father.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
11. Yeah they are
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:47 PM
May 2019

He has a pathway to parenting well, it will be difficult, which his own fault, but I want to see him rise to the occasion and be a father. He can do it if he wants too.

Turbineguy

(38,285 posts)
3. Wow!
Tue May 7, 2019, 07:57 PM
May 2019


You seem to have dealt with that rather well.

I too am not in the habit of telling my Daughter how to live her life. And sometimes that is very difficult. And on the major things, she usually makes the right choices.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
7. Right?
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:44 PM
May 2019

My mantra is I will tell you what I think, but I will also mind my own business, which makes me a beloved mother in law with my other daughters husbands

My daughter literally said “I NEED you to STOP minding your own business. That’s when I knew how bad it was. She’s very independent

kimbutgar

(23,164 posts)
4. Leaving an abusive husband is brave
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:28 PM
May 2019

My first husband was a jerk like your daughters ex husband. My mother always used to tell me not to get pregnant and I didn’t and escaped.

Thank GOD your daughter has great parents who were supportive like mine.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
9. Yeah, I have three daughters, and this is my first experience
Tue May 7, 2019, 08:46 PM
May 2019

I never married until my current husband, we blended a family and have been going strong ever since. I literally knew nothing about divorce, especially one as ugly as this. She got out and I’m so glad I can’t even express it properly

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
15. Omg--you have no idea
Wed May 8, 2019, 08:10 AM
May 2019

It was classic, but we didn’t hear about a lot of until she cut and run. The marriage lasted less than three years

CousinIT

(10,019 posts)
17. My bro is one of these. They HATE women. Literally.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:36 AM
May 2019

He was believe it or not a Democrat.

UNTIL - Hillary was the nominee.

THEN - he became a staunch Trump supporter/Republican.

"I AIN'T VOTING FOR NO FEMINISM!" was his hue and cry.

Never dated.

Never married. (Thank God for the potential women he may have tortured)

Their attitudes towards females is that they are slaves. That they should expect to be raped at men's will. That they should expect forced childbearing. And that all the problems of the world are their fault. That they should have no choice about abortion. It should be legal BUT only males decide when a female can have one, and why. Never up to the female.

They are shockingly cruel, angry men who simply can not deal with female humanity. They are utterly indifferent to it. Most - are libertarians or republicans or the become so when faced with any women who may have power.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
18. They do
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:03 AM
May 2019

And he clearly does.

And I try to explain that to her, because he really did a number on her self esteem. One of the milder things he would say, like a starter word kit for shittery is “The baby got her looks and my brains”—implying she was stupid, which far, far from the truth.

CousinIT

(10,019 posts)
19. I'm so glad she and the baby are safe now.
Wed May 8, 2019, 11:19 AM
May 2019

In case you or she are interested: http://www.escapeabuse.com - lots of good info there, not specifically dealing with MRAs but abusers in general - they all operate similarly.

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