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Related: About this forum“Lean the f*** away from me”: Jessica Williams
Many a crying emoji was shared in response, but Williams made it clear that she was good with where shes at and with everything thats still ahead of her, tweeting, Im not like, dead. This is the beginning of my career. A little while later, a writer for the Billfold responded to Williams announcement with a piece that claimed she was a victim of impostor syndrome, and that she needed to lean in.
Williams swiftly defended herself against the accusation:
Are you unaware, how insulting that can be for a fully functioning person to hear that her choices are invalid? Because you have personally decided, that I DONT know myself- as a WOMAN you are saying that I need to lean in. Because of my choice, you have diagnosed me with something without knowing me at all. For the world to see.
And this is the problem with lean in applied as a universal feminist ethos. Like most supposedly universal narratives, its incredibly limiting. Sheryl Sandberg acknowledged in the book that she didnt believe that women should all have the same objectives or face the same obstacles, but much of the advice is still presented as inclusive when its actually narrowly tailored to a certain kind of woman (namely, white, upwardly mobile and married to, or interested in marrying, a man who is likely the same), working to achieve a certain kind of power while maintaining a certain kind of family life. The book is undoubtedly useful and resonates for some, but, as Roxane Gay pointed out in her thoughtful review, a lot of Sandbergs wisdom reads something like, If you want to succeed, be an asshole.
http://www.salon.com/2015/02/18/lean_the_f_away_from_me_jessica_williams_impostor_syndrome_and_the_many_ways_we_serially_doubt_women/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
I am a black woman and I am a feminist and I am so many things. I am truly honored that people love my work. But I am not yours, she tweeted. No offense, but Lean the Fuck away from me for the next couple of days. I need a minute.
What a great response.
sheshe2
(87,193 posts)Lean the F*** away from me is right. Get the hell out of my face!
Brava to Jessica Williams.
Thanks, great post Bains~
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Jessica Williams is quite aware that should she take the job and then fail, her failure won't be her own, it will be all black women's, and all women's. Another thing she is quite aware of, but which Ester Blooms seems unaware, is that the resistance and obstacles she'll face will be 100x what a white woman would face. But Bloom disregards that, and diagnoses Williams over the internet with 'impostor syndrome'. Because Bloom refuses to realize that a 25.year old black woman won't be given a grace period, won't be allowed to stumble, won't be allowed to feel her way forward and learn on the job - and because she is a young black woman she is not allowed to be aware of that, and say no to a job that would be incredibly hard even for a 40-something white comedienne with a long established career, such as Tina Fey, or Amy Pohler. Williams has a much better grasp of her reality than Bloom ever will, and telling her that she doesn't is Privilege 101 material.
TL;DR If Jessica Williams says she isn't ready for the job, we should listen, and hear what she says instead of speaking over her.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,344 posts)rpannier
(24,567 posts)I wouldn't want to follow Stewart
I think Williams would have done great and would have held her own in the spot.
I applaud her honesty about it .
It's easy to sit on the outside and criticize her for not pushing for the part. But if it's how she feels about it, why should she leap into something she doesn't want at this point in her career
Agreed: It is a great response
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i loved how she handled it all the way thru
i like how so many women are just putting feminist in their descriptive of self. i do, now, also.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)too young and inexperienced. give her time to find her mojo. when i saw who it was, i was even more supporting her, her ability to clearly express herself.
it is awesome
A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)I hope she will remain part of the show regardless of who takes over. I think it would be awesome if John Oliver came back but I don't see that happening.
mountain grammy
(27,206 posts)I thought that the first time she appeared on the Daily Show.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Not being in comedy or show business, I have no way to evaluate that. I think she's funny, and would do a good job. It would be a shame if the only reason was "I'm young".
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Not that she owes anyone an answer.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)and as a improv comedienne instead of a stand-up comedienne has something to do with it. And as I referenced earlier, there would be no on-the-job training, she would be expected to succeed on the level of Jon Stewart with 20 years experience with the Daily Show from the very first day. He has gradually raised the standard as he has gotten better - he didn't start out as good as he is now. But I'm sure Jessica Williams knows that she won't be allowed to even settle for John Oliver's level, because she is not a man. There's truth to the saying that a woman has to be twice as good as a man to be thought half as good as him.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Again, I want to emphasize that I have enormous respect for Williams. I think shes talented and funny and great. That said, Williams is not accountable to either old white tastemakers or, as the also talented and funny Wyatt Cenac pointed out, to young opinionated ones like me. The decision is entirely hers.
ETA II (2/18): I wrote that first apology early on, before I had the chance to read Jessica Williams full Tweeted response, and then my feed became overwhelming & impossible to sort through, especially with all the curse words, so I missed a lot of what came next. But now that Im more caught up, I wanted to state officially and for the record, as I have on Twitter, that I was wrong. I was offensive and presumptuous; I messed up, and Im sorry. Williams should not have had to deal with this shit: my calling her a victim of anything, my acting like I know better and could diagnose her with anything, all of it. Ugh. Im leaving the post up, because at this point my stupid blog entry is News, and may it live in infamy. But I apologize, again. I am listening to folks and trying to learn, and I will try my hardest to be more damn careful & thoughtful in the future.
http://thebillfold.com/2015/02/on-the-daily-shows-jessica-williams-the-latest-high-profile-victim-of-impostor-syndrome/
I think Jessica Williams' response was great, by the way.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)and not try to tell them what they really think, is so important.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am saying the words. really. said it. why am i not heard.
nothing important or a big deal. i just notice it with a couple people when i talk.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Those of us with privilege need to be humble when we're corrected by those with less privilege when it comes to their lived experience.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Also, Williams is a badass and definitely one of my favorites. Good for her.