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ismnotwasm

(42,436 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:21 PM Dec 2014

On FB--reposted by a friend.







There's never been a majority of women that claim the label, and white middle-class feminism has made its share of egregious mistakes when it came to POC, as well as cultural understanding (minus human rights violations-- that's part of what feminism fights against) but I still like the union comparison---in an open shop you get the benefits without paying the dues. People might disdain the label, but they're riding the coat.
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On FB--reposted by a friend. (Original Post) ismnotwasm Dec 2014 OP
they dont like the fabric, but they ride the coattails anyway. mopinko Dec 2014 #1
Bravo. Much warranted truth telling to unaware and ungateful anti-feminist women who benefit from appalachiablue Dec 2014 #2
"Too much here and now ignorance when none of us got here on our own." F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #4
true heaven05 Dec 2014 #3
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #5
As someone who sacrificed something of myself for the rights of girls to have high school sports... DesertDiamond Dec 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #12
This is excellent JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #7
I'll be honest here. dawg Dec 2014 #8
if they are young, i understand. if they are over 25, especially over 30, i ponder. seabeyond Dec 2014 #10
Thanks. dawg Dec 2014 #11
Or so steeped in privilege that they don't see wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #16
K&R stage left Dec 2014 #9
Right on sister, K&R every word mountain grammy Dec 2014 #13
Good friend at work ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #14
interesting. i too have started labeling myself with this. seabeyond Dec 2014 #15

appalachiablue

(42,830 posts)
2. Bravo. Much warranted truth telling to unaware and ungateful anti-feminist women who benefit from
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:48 PM
Dec 2014

the struggle and sacrifice of others. Too much here and now ignorance when none of us got here on our own.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
4. "Too much here and now ignorance when none of us got here on our own."
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:19 PM
Dec 2014

I think this speaks to a major cultural struggle today: the willingness to give back and contribute to a society that (as a whole) provided for most everything we have today. I think the conservative wing of this country simply wants to ignore that, which is why Obama's "You didn't build that" comment sparked such an uproar.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
6. As someone who sacrificed something of myself for the rights of girls to have high school sports...
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

and yes, there was sacrifice, in so many unseen ways... the "I'm not a feminist" cutsies make me want to barf on them. They don't deserve the rights we won for them, and I'd love to find a way to take those rights back. Yeah, I'm sure that sounds petty, but it's how they make me feel.

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dawg

(10,720 posts)
8. I'll be honest here.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014

When a woman makes a big fuss about her not being a feminist, it raises a red flag with me. My (possibly unfair) first impression is that she is either a religious nutjob, or else a woman with self-esteem issues who is desperate for male attention and approval.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. if they are young, i understand. if they are over 25, especially over 30, i ponder.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:12 PM
Dec 2014

hope your holidays are good....

wavesofeuphoria

(525 posts)
16. Or so steeped in privilege that they don't see
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

the inequality. I usually chalk it up to having had a privileged life and not aware of "anything" not in their immediate experiences. I too get a little surprised by the "fuss of not being a feminist" too ... so "women are people, too" is controversial?

mountain grammy

(27,208 posts)
13. Right on sister, K&R every word
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:10 PM
Dec 2014

my daughter, born in 1988, knows feminism because I've taught her..

My sons, raised in the 70's and 80's understand because they lived it with me.

"conservative" women make me want to puke.. our own worst enemies.

ismnotwasm

(42,436 posts)
14. Good friend at work
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

Recently divorced, is looking at "OK Cupid" as a on-line dating site. On her profile she has "feminist (Google it)".--just like that

Love it. I've been married too long to know about on-line dating, but I know people fairly well--She was using me as a second opinion, because she knows this about me. I looked at the two men she is interested in--both well-spoken with an odd lack of bullshit. (well, the kind that hits my bullshit meter anyway-- and trust me I tried hard to find red flags) I'm very interested in how they turn out.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. interesting. i too have started labeling myself with this.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:29 AM
Dec 2014

at thanksgiving someone said something about me being a feminist. i told them. print it on my forehead. cause anyone that cannot handle the word feminist, needs to be aware and stay away. i am just not being accepting.

then again. i have boldly drawn my line with rw'ers and racists and homophobes. even the mild, "i am not really a racist" type while what they say, says otherwise.

time is too short.

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