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wavesofeuphoria

(525 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:38 AM Nov 2014

Let's Just Say It: Women Matter More Than Fetuses Do

Let's Just Say It: Women Matter More Than Fetuses Do
By Rebecca Traister

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120167/womens-abortion-rights-trump-fetuses-rights

One Monday this September, I woke to the realization that I was officially in abortion overtime. I had entered my twenty-fourth week of pregnancy, which is the point when abortion (except in the most vanishingly rare of medical circumstances) ceases to be a legal option in the state of New York.

I have no desire to have an abortion. I am carrying a baby my husband and I conceived on purpose and whom we can’t wait to raise alongside our older daughter. Yet on that morning, I was acutely aware of having lost one of the most important tools available to women: the ability to exert control over what’s going on inside my uterus.

During both of my pregnancies, I have monitored the weeks available for legal abortion with the same precision that I used to keep track of when to get the nuchal screening, the amnio, the gestational diabetes test. To me, abortion belongs to the same category as the early Cesarean I will need to undergo because of previous surgeries. That is to say, it is a crucial medical option, a cornerstone in women’s reproductive health care. And during pregnancy, should some medical, economic, or emotional circumstance have caused my fate to be weighed against that of my baby, I believe that my rights, my health, my consciousness, and my obligations to others—including to my toddler daughter—outweigh the rights of the unborn human inside me.

Talking about abortions in this way may sound heartless and baby-hating—even, I fear, to pro-choice ears. But that’s not because it is heartless or baby-hating; it’s because the conversation around abortion has become so terribly warped. Public discussion of abortion has come to inexorably privilege fetal life over female life. The imaginary futures—the “personhoods”—of the unborn have taken moral precedence over the adult women in whose bodies they grow.
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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120167/womens-abortion-rights-trump-fetuses-rights

Women lack body autonomy and integrity - why is that? Are we not free?

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Let's Just Say It: Women Matter More Than Fetuses Do (Original Post) wavesofeuphoria Nov 2014 OP
In some people's minds, no shenmue Nov 2014 #1
I was 36 when I had my second. Experience and knowledge of pregnancy, seabeyond Nov 2014 #2
Women matter more than fetuses do. 3catwoman3 Nov 2014 #3
This was my second preg also. Not two months in I was put in hospital seabeyond Nov 2014 #4
Women matter more than Fetuses. Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #5
Of course they do ismnotwasm Nov 2014 #6
Women Matter More Than Fetuses Do Kath1 Nov 2014 #7
So obvious that it's scary how many people can't admit it, or outright disagree. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #8

shenmue

(38,537 posts)
1. In some people's minds, no
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:39 AM
Nov 2014

And to that segment, we will always have to "prove it."

Well, the hell with that.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. I was 36 when I had my second. Experience and knowledge of pregnancy,
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:08 PM
Nov 2014

I knew a time would come when we discussed a test for Down syndrome and my option of abortion.

It was my reality as a 36 yr old pregnant woman.

I had a very known catholic doctor. And he was great. The best. Concern for me was always first... The rest followed. I had not considered that until this conversation.

Well into pregnancy, we discussed the issue with NO religious judgment and only medical fact.

It was after, that I really thought about that. I had expected no less from this dr. And I got no less. But... It was just the point if repugs getting nasty about this, and religion.

3catwoman3

(25,379 posts)
3. Women matter more than fetuses do.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:15 PM
Nov 2014

Well, we should.

I can never understand why the rights of those of us already on the planet do not matter as much of those what've not reached the point of viability.

And WTH is with people like Joni Ernst who doesn't think even tubal pregnancies should be terminated? Fetuses cannot, repeat CANNOT, survive ectopic pregnancies, and one left to rupture CAN kill the woman.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. This was my second preg also. Not two months in I was put in hospital
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 12:28 PM
Nov 2014

With concern of tubal preg. Per symptoms. It was quickly ruled out but there was no other consideration but to end preg if that was the case.

It was food poisoning. A good vomit took care if it.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
8. So obvious that it's scary how many people can't admit it, or outright disagree.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:34 PM
Nov 2014

Zero tolerance for anti-choice bullshit. We don't need it in the Dem Party, and we don't need it on DU.

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