There is an organized effort coming out of Discussionist

[BainsBane]

http://www.discussionist.com/101636776

It's kinda fun and encouraging to watch the need of radical feminism to enlist the "help" of neutral parties fail miserably in their own feel good and disconnected spaces (like DU). To some of these unstable kooks, instead of a man and woman it's man and victim. Or maybe wife and abuser.

Either way the cracks in the anti-male (and often anti-white) narrative are seriously encouraging to this man who refuses to raise his sons in the ludicrous institutional model of every male being the potential abuser.

With RedQueen gone (ugh) there is like 4 more to go. Keep the pressure on friends of logic and unemotional thought.

Now I am guessing I am on that list, and I feel a bit miffed about it. The last exchange I had with our old friend Galileo Reloaded over on DI he said:

Brains bane! It's u!
Oh I've missed you so. Very bright girl!
I always thought that if I could break into your ego defenses you could be my best pupil. Yet sadly we had to part.
Well, now we can learn and explore each other without pretense. Joy!

Now we come to this? Galileo, thou hast broken my heart.

[MADem]

1. I guess they don't realize that the admins are like Big Brother over both sites...?

I mean, really, that's a totally dumbshit "effort." Say, let me "out" my Super Secret Band of Merrie Disruptors by posting my nefarious plans on a website owned by the same entity that owns the website I'm targeting! YEAH, that's a PLAN!!!!!!

It very well could be some dweeb just hoping to get a rise out of people. Sometimes, the way to sow FUD is to imply there's organization, when there's none.

If there is an organized effort, they've just outed themselves.

[BainsBane]

2. I think that's what got Bob so riled up

and we've had no end of suicide mission trolls coming after us. That's how I happened to look over there, and this was at the top of the feed. Yeah, not exactly high strategy.

[MADem]

6. It's so very terribly ugly over there, in some of the threads.

I recoil at some of the bigoted comments.

I can understand the whole liberal-conservative "feuds," those were to be expected, and I imagine anyone looking for a nice dust-up would enjoy jumping in to that kind of verbal fight....but when the talk turns to denigrating speech about race, gender or orientation I am simply aghast. I just can't overlook that kind of shit.

Of course, it's an interesting window into the thought process of a small subset of so-called conservatives. I can't believe even the worst of them would be so crass and obvious in their hatred were they not hiding behind a wall of anonymity. Their mamas would probably beat their behinds after they made them take out the trash, and send them back to their basements without any dessert!

[BainsBane]

9. I find it interesting

that so many of the migrants/PPR'd from DU share many of the same views on issues on race and gender as the conservatives.

[MADem]

15. Well, I'm guessing a lot of them shared those views all along!

I wouldn't be surprised if you were wondering the very same thing!

I know (because I've read it here!) that some people from that Cave website have boasted about being "deep cover" trolls and I think one said they were even a mod back in the day.

Here's what I just cannot wrap my head around--why the fuck BOTHER? Why be all sneaky and "Hee hee hee" rubbing those hands together with evil glee, to try to "get over" on a group of progressives and Democrats who are just here to converse, and who already have sufficient differences to make a conversation interesting? Why try to be the bratty kid at the daycare who smashes the tower of blocks? What do they GET out of it?

I can't imagine a life so bereft of simple joy that they get a charge out of fucking with people on the net. It just makes no doggone sense! In that regard, I guess you have to feel sorry for them--they're just the "kid who never fit in," and they're trying, in a lame and pointless, life-wasting way, to affirm their existence by extracting what they think is "revenge." It's really so sad that this is what gives them a thrill...

To me, an unexpected trip to London is a thrill. A piece of cheesecake covered with blueberries is a thrill. A dip in a cool lake on a hot day is a thrill! Fucking with someone on the internet, calling them names, "plotting" with associates to mess with people...? That's just pathetic.

[BainsBane]

21. I'm with you on the inability to understand that fixation with screwing with strangers online

Though the people I referenced on DI aren't all caver trolls. Some are "liberals" who have a lot of issues with women and people of color. And of course they had those views all along. In fact, I recognize some current members who pretend their only issues are with feminists and not people of color on this site, but over there they are quite forthcoming with their reactionary views on race. It's that here they know they can't get away with it, while they can get away with the shit they say about women.

[MADem]

26. I figure most people are a product of their life experience.

Which makes you wonder what kind of life experience those people endured?

I'm guessing it was full of stereotyped roles, probably with a touch of domestic violence, authoritarian rigidity, and a dearth of intellectual stimulation. Maybe a bit of poor nutrition, too...!

I mean, really--a kid who is raised right, who is taught to think and to make value-based judgments, wouldn't express those kinds of views. They just wouldn't.

If they hold "liberal" (and it's appropriate to use the term advisedly in this circumstance) views, then perhaps they can unlearn the bigoted beliefs and re-calibrate their viewpoints. It can happen. It just takes a "moment of insight" for the person to get it...!

[BainsBane]

31. That is the problem with that kind of bigoted discussion online

It reinforces those negative beliefs and makes them think they are justified. That makes enlightenment less likely.

[BainsBane]

47. Looks like somebody can't stand to see people laughing

And had to alert on this thread? I don't see why that post needed to be hidden.

[Louisiana1976]

52. I don't either.

[mimi85]

88. Make that three. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

55. and then could NOT wait to brag about taking her out ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5470027

[ismnotwasm]

75. Ew.

All I'm sayin'

[Tuesday Afternoon]

78. these childish games are what is allowing all the real nastiness seep through.

they think this is a cute game to play. meanwhile women are getting really nasty PMs from some really evil people.

I take umbrage that my Rights as a woman and a human are being reduced to playing childish internet cat and mouse games.

[chervilant]

82. That one is on my IL, for good reason... n/t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

83. totally. eom

[BlancheSplanchnik]

104. damn. that guy is a....

Well, we all know don't we. I don't have to say it and give charming children cause for tantrums and alarm pulling, right? Yeesh.

Reminds me of a narcissist I used to know. Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Fancy name for *your word of choice here*.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

112. IKR

[DonCoquixote]

130. I posted a response to that

but I will tell it a different way here.

Kobe Beef is expensive. These steers are given all the beer they can drink, all the rice, get massaged by farmer's daughters, and pretty much live life as if they are king of the hill. Little do they know, the people making them all fat, happy and vain are those who plan to sell them to butchers, who will do things like sell Kobe Burgers for $25 dollars at Steakhouses. These bulls will laughs at the chickens, snicker at the pigs, until it comes their turn at the abattoir. Of course, the first things those steers will do is start whining "why isn't anyone coming to save me?"

[Tuesday Afternoon]

131. The term *vainglorious* comes to mind.

[chervilant]

81. There is a prime example of what I meant herein above.

I think there must be some people who look for any opportunity to hide one of sea's posts. I have seen hateful, derisive posts get a pass, but the slightest 'infraction' from sea warrants a hide. It's ridiculous.

[HERVEPA]

93. Whoever alerted (not I) probably because calling out the admins is not permitted

Belongs in Ask the Admins, or nowhere.
I don't understand why folks go over to that site.
There's enough to get riled up about here.

[BainsBane]

94. Did you see the rape threats against specific members here?

Including me? Two different people sent them to me Pretending they didn't happen doesn't make them go away, and it doesn't make the person any less dangerous. I find deeply troubling the attitude that if I didn't pay attention to the fact someone has threatened to rape and kill me, it wouldn't be an issue.

Additionally, many of those members are active members here, and the Doctor who made the rape threats claims to be one of them. Are you comfortable with someone like that posting on this site? How is it that of all the things discussed in this thread, you choose to condemn the fact Sea didn't pay proper deference to authority? How is it that can bother you more than threats of violence against real people? Really. I'd like to understand. Is it the content of the threads?? Is it the fact that I and Redqueen were the ones threatened?

[HERVEPA]

96. If the Admins know of someone who is on this site making rape threats, they should be removed.

Have you called this to admin's attention via Ask the Admins or some other way?

[BainsBane]

100. Why have you chosen not to answer my question?

[DonCoquixote]

129. furthermore

who the hell was in that jury that determined it was ban worthy? I mean, at least four people had to, especially as I see stuff that uses race slurs, or calls Muslims subhuman, and it gets 2-4, maybe three to four, the winning vote being that brave and wonderful paladin of right wing thought "No explanation given."

[CreekDog]

132. we keep being told that the juries represent the community

but it's pretty clear that juries seem quite unlike the community much of the time.

[BainsBane]

133. I saw a post over there

Where someone who has PPR'd from DU for misogyny admitting to recently serving on juries on DU. Obviously he has a zombie.

[chrisa]

109. Another bullshit hide against Seabeyond. Wtf...

[arcane1]

57. Looks like someone fired up the bat-signal!

It's funny how I, as a white male, haven't been offended by any of this. It may be due, in large part, to the fact that I'm not an asshole and thus have no need to feel defensive when assholes are called out.

Just a thought

[JustAnotherGen]

59. But I came to your defense

He wouldn't have had the brass ovaries to post that in GD so our many white male allies could pile on.

That was a punk ass move so I alerted.

Go big - or go back to Discussionist.

[arcane1]

61. Good call! This one probably couldn't handle more than one post anyway.

Too much thinking involved

[JustAnotherGen]

58. FYI - I sent over an alert on this

You basically called all white men you disagree with ball-less wonders. No Buono. Basta! Arriverderci

[chervilant]

80. I find it disheartening,

and particularly heinous, when a member of this forum responds to a feminist's posts with derision, and condescension--just as I had happen to me on another thread. An individual who is now on my IL cast aspersions on my advocacy for survivors of relationship violence, then asserted that I must have been a detriment to those for whom I'd done advocacy (I'm paraphrasing and cleaning up his grammar.) I've had this happen more frequently lately, and I have to wonder if it's someone from DI trying to goad me into a post that could/should be hidden.

It's tiresome, dealing with the hate and disrespect.

[BainsBane]

85. No, I've had similar comments made to me

many times. They insist that if a woman doesn't remain silent and accept how she is treated, no matter how badly, she is playing "victim" and hurting women's rights. In their skewed view, being strong means suffering abuse, rape, and misogyny in silence and never speaking in public about it. Remember the poster who accused Dylan Farrow of being the abuser because she spoke out about her father's raping her as a child? That is the sort of mentality some display. Also they say it because they can get away with it.

There is a right-wing backlash against women an people of color in this country and it has spread throughout the web and across the political spectrum. Sadly, it is not just right-wingers.

[chervilant]

86. I will continue to read anything you and a handful of other feminists post.

I always read n2doc's toons, and SCE's Sunday LOLcats. I try to read all of xchrome's posts, and there are a handful of DUers whose responses I appreciate But the bullies and the bigots are growing too numerous to ignore. My IL is more than five times as long as it was this time last year.

[MadrasT]

50. +1 I am totally mystified how this is entertainment to people.

[MADem]

56. I think it's to do with no power in their real lives.

Maybe no talent at playing those multiplayer video games, either! A lousy job with a mean boss who doesn't see how "wonderful" they are, perhaps? No skill at competitive sports, maybe?

No opportunity to vanquish a foe, to have "power," to exert authority!

The only way to "win" is to cause people to get all upset and outraged, so they go to a website with a distinctive POV, like this one, and say horrible things to get people to respond with outrage.

Then they hug themselves with glee. Ah HA!!! I got THAT one!!!!!


It's got to be an empty life.

[theHandpuppet]

62. What do they get out of it?

The same thing a five year old "gets" from saying "fuck" to his grandma or farting at the dinner table. Peter Pan syndrome.

[MADem]

63. Yes--a moment of POWER and CONTROL. Everyone stops, and pays ATTENTION to them! nt

[cui bono]

46. You can't have a good discussion when it gets down to that level of smarmy retorts

with no substance, and that will happen on any unmoderated board on the internet.

A good debate about policy issues would be fine - Thom Hartmann does that on his show all the time - but when it's just angry muc slinging there's no point.

Unfortunately the admins don't care about that. They seem to just like to provide the kindling and let the fires get as big as the people want. If they really cared about the issues they would mod the boards and keep out the poo-flinging and offensive crap.

[MADem]

48. I think that "other" board is the slurry pit, actually!

A fetid catchbasin. Where the flushed bits go!

It probably provides a bit of revenue, too, and it does take the heat off this place to no small extent. I can't imagine all that crap popping up here, in sockpuppet after sockpuppet.

I am guessing they can figure out who is who from there to here, as well. These people who change their names and spout offensive comments over there might be affecting a new persona on that side of the fence, but the admins know who they are there, and here.

[cui bono]

49. I don't disagree with that! I took one peek and decided it was not for me.

There is a political section on a Prius message board and it is well modded, as is the entire board, and you cannot use any term that is derogatory to either side or you get a warning and then a time out. Granted it is much smaller than here, MUCH smaller since it is one little section of the whole board, but still, it keeps things pretty civil and makes people speak to the issue rather than simply insult others.

I think that's the only way to have uninterrupted quality discussion on the internet. You just can't leave it up to juries, that is arbitrary and jurors are too often allowing their political stance decide rather than the merits of the alerted post.

And yes, admins can tell if it's the same person on each board. There are ways to hide it but there would most likely be a slip up sometime that would allow admins to see the necessary info.

[mimi85]

87. I still wonder why Skinner and friends

felt the need to start the site. Mystery to me. It contributes absolutely nada to anything or anyone. Guess we'll never know. I visited once and that was enough for me. DU seems to be heading that way lately. Maybe it's me, I've had probably one of the shittiest years of my life, no exaggeration.

[MADem]

92. It's a holding pen, and a moneymaker.

I think it's genius. It gets them out of here, and puts them over there. If they act up, there are ways to figure out who's who there and here.

It puts food on the table for the site owners, so they can keep this place running. They have to eat, too. People forget this isn't a charity, this is their j-o-b. It's how they earn their money.

The ad revenues over there from the page hits provide income. And it keeps the trolls at a distance.

I think it's a good thing. It's not a fun place for people who don't like engaging with conservative haters though.

[DonCoquixote]

128. here is where I disagree.

When people use it as a PLANNING area for attacking DU members, it is a threat, especially when it goes into offenses that many nations consider a CRIME. It is not just a case of "they can turn their sandbox into a litterbox if they want to." These creeps want to hurt DU members! They feel they have a right to conquer, to tell us what we can do, and punish those they decide they want to punish! They feel our existence is the impingement on them!

And it is one thing if it is another site, but please do not tell me the same people who run both sites are blind.

[freshwest]

105. I'm with you on this past year. Unbelievable. So I won't put up abuse here.

[cyberswede]

65. That assumes the Admins care about that sort of thing.

I expect they'll take the position that the two sites should be considered separately.

[Scootaloo]

126. And that's a pretty big assumption, given the level of care they show for the issue on DU

[seabeyond]

3. yes. i have heard discussionist on du, since last night. but really, this morning. nt

[ismnotwasm]

4. What's this obsession with DU?

Do they honestly believe this is where activism happens? That, in my case do nothing about or for feminism except hang out here?

I could never be here and nothing would stop the changes feminism is making. Deeply deluded, man, those people, deeply deluded.

They do crack me up--it's funny as hell.

Oh, and anti-male and anti-white? Fucking freaks, omg

One last thing whose help are we enlisting? I didn't get that info.

[BainsBane]

5. Everyone who was ever banned from DU is over there

and they all blame HOF. Banned for anti-Semitism, it's HOF's fault. Banned for homophobia or transphobia, it's HOF's fault. Banned for disrupting the host group, it's HOF's fault. It's scapegoating, pure and simple.

[ismnotwasm]

7. Weird

And I'm assuming they think this is normal and they don't require, at the least, years of intensive therapy? They're not even making sense.

[BainsBane]

10. Yes, you assume right

[abelenkpe]

8. Wow

Thats sickening. Why don't the hosts immediately ban those people? Clearly they have a disruptive and bigoted agenda?

[BainsBane]

12. I heard EarlG (whatever his exact name is over there I forget) say

that the only way you can get banned from Discussionist is by making a second account to get around the time out from five hides.
So they are free to say what they please as long as juries allow it, and they do.

[abelenkpe]

18. That's disappointing.

Can't stomach discussionist myself. But if you need help over there...

[BainsBane]

30. Oh, no. My view is better there than here

I appreciate the offer though.

[seabeyond]

17. that particular poster was on du long enough. creating a negative place for feminist,

regularly.

before finally being banned.

anyone know why? it is seeming like it was not for misogyny that was the final straw. though we obviously addressed it with his whole stay here.

[boston bean]

11. hmmmm I wonder if I'm one of the 4......

most likely! I was before anyways!

Here's to the other three, whoever you may be!

[BainsBane]

13. I would think so since you post in GD

My guess is that is what incenses them. Also the two BBs get talked about over there. They say we are basically the same.

[TexasTowelie]

54. Ah yes, one of the most hilarious allegations that I see on Websites with mixed ideologies.

Whenever a conservative blogger receives one more than one reply opposing their point of view they have to resort to the conspiracy theory that there is only one person ganging up against them and posting with multiple account names. I'm ROTFL whenever I see that occur--they don't believe that there are actually two or three people that disagree with them because everyone is supposed to think like they do!

Some of my other favorites are the use of the royal pronouns such as "We" and "Our", the use of absolute qualifiers such as "All" or "None", and then slightly less than absolute qualifiers when they feel like they must give a slight bit of ground such as "Most", "Many" and "Few".

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. Lists!!

Yay!!

Time to make Lists and check them twice.
gonna find out who's naughty or nice!

Santa Claus is coming to town!

DI = The gift that just keeps on giving

[ismnotwasm]

16. We'll add doors.

And ducks

[Tuesday Afternoon]

19. and Bread !!

We Got it All ... here in HoF. Yes WE do !!

[seabeyond]

20. wtf is bread. talked about my dog last night. that is a no no too. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

22. what was the Bread thing ??? I have forgotten how that one started ...

was it the Baguette picture, maybe

oh yeah, now the dog's thing.

damn, we could build a house and make a home!

comfy little HoF.

[seabeyond]

23. the baggette was our colorado springs trip of booze, fun and laughing. oh, and dick.

our waiter. lol.

that was TOO much fun.

[ismnotwasm]

24. Ah yes, Dick

[seabeyond]

25. so fuggin funny. dick didnt do a lot of laughing with us. dick could not make a drink.

our waiter form the night before was a zillion times more awesome. and he had so much fun with us.

dick, did not want to play, lol.

[ismnotwasm]

27. And so it goes

See Dick run

See Dick fall

See Dick be Dick.

[seabeyond]

29. lol that was such a hoot. gonna have to have one in the northwest. too much fun. just not a lot

of us in that area.

[seabeyond]

28. baines, do you remember the other waiters name? he could make a drink. baines challenged the dude

with different drinks. he was very accommodation. and baines didnt take it easy on the dude. when giving the hard earned thumbs up the kid just shined, lol.

i was easy. pour me a red wine, fill er up, and keep them coming. lol

ah ha

i love

[BainsBane]

32. No, I don't remember any of their names

I just remember people sexually harassing the poor guy.

What were we laughing about? H. is a s...t, Sea is a b,,,h, but I can't even remember what I was.

ETA: Violent, that's what I was. We had a lot of laughs.

[seabeyond]

34. the prude, cause you were shaking your finger at us for using the mans name on his name tag, lol?

i tease

that was probably the third or fourth glass by then, and h... well.

[BainsBane]

36. No, it was definitely violent

cause I kept hitting you in the arm. I was the batterer. It was playing totally against our political views. Remember?

[BainsBane]

35. Dick?

I don't recall any Dick. I'm pretty sure I had to come home for that.

[seabeyond]

37. no. that was before you got there firstly... and by the second night you were all over those drinks

you were a damn teetotaler the first night. you had to first do all the reasoning to decide, ya, booze is good.

by the second you were all like, is it time yet. lol

dick definitely served us.

where is K. she knows. lol

[BainsBane]

38. That was only because it was a bad margarita

the first night. Dick is not a good bartender, I'm sorry to say.

[seabeyond]

39. remember my champagne cocktail... almost undrinkable, but it was booze, i did pay for it, and the

know it all dick would not listen to instruction. instead of a dab of bitters, he soak it in bitters thinking more meant better.

dick was all wrong.

i could hardly get it down.

too funny.

thanks. gotta go.

[BainsBane]

40. Reminds me of when you were leaving for Texas

after we'd been to whatever town where we went to the dispensary. . . We asked to be dropped off at the bar. You started talking about how you thought that was a bit irresponsible, you took pot seriously, didn't think we should go to a bar. . . as you were about to drive across two states to get home.

[seabeyond]

42. you are such a fuggin snitch. i dropped you all off and then went to a park for a couple hours, lol.

i had no desire to wear glasses at a bar, the park? ya. not a bar with lotsa lotsa people that like look at you and all.

i loved the young gal at the restaurant that morning though. totally awesome and precious.

gotta go

[DonCoquixote]

41. I just had a sparring match

with someone who said "I see now command center there", no, you just see a lot of idiots getting togther in a bunch of splintered c ells, kind of the way ISIS works.

And I love how the disgrace to the name of Galilieo insists he is the teacher instead of the student. Fools make poor teachers.

[BainsBane]

43. He really is a fool

And an arrogant one, which makes him all the more stupid.

[sufrommich]

44. An old Conservative Cave trick:

The Doctor (1,123 posts)
10. If only they realized I'm not a banned member on DU.

Sometimes I like stoking the misogynistic flames on DU when I get bored. I start the drama and then HoF jumps in and does their thing. Look at this weekend. I helped start it.



The HoFers are my play things and they don't even realize it!


****I remember seeing this a lot over there.They pretend to be fabulous trolls who have everybody tricked by their superior reverse psychology skills and brag about their non existent persona at DU. There are some sad little boys over there.

[BainsBane]

45. Yeah, I know in the case of the cave,

They claim to have all these moles on MIRT, etc... but then they don't know basic stuff about how the site operates--difference between a flag and a ban, for example. So those claims don't ring true. Who knows about that one. I mean, what difference does it make anyway? It's up to the admins. to deal with disruptors.

[Jackpine Radical]

51. I don't go there.

I think it ought be drained to keep the infection-carrying bugs from laying their eggs there I then coming to infest us.

[JustAnotherGen]

60. I don't go over there

But after the snot that got blown on this thread? I believe you.

It's kind of pitiful actually.

You take up THAT MUCH space in a total strangers brain. Let that marinate a little bit.

What a sad life that person has.

[cyberswede]

64. "...be my best pupil." Well, that's creepy.

[DonCoquixote]

66. Skinner , I love DU

Even in it's very weakened, very corrupted form.

But if I know that my money will go to support Discussionist, I will not give it. Period.

I am not talking about whether or not to make changes here at DU, though I do want to see discussion of it (like revamping the jury system, etc.) But it is another to get me to pay for people that are actively trying to intimidate and hurt us. Maybe some people here are naïve/thick-headed, but do not tell me that you cannot see this for what it is.

[Kingofalldems]

72. Agree 100%

I will not knowingly give one cent to support that site.

[theHandpuppet]

77. Is that true?

Is money we give to DU diverted to support Discussionist?

[frazzled]

89. If I may be blunt, I'll go even further

And say that I think it's both politically and morally wrong to monetize crazy or hateful right-wing stuff, or to give it a forum. And I presume that every click over there earns some pennies. At a minimum, it provides succor to people whose ideas we often find offensive.

I thought DU was started for altruistic reasons, and sure, its administrators need to support the site and themselves. Which is why we contribute (or, alternately, endure advertising that provides support).

But to try to franchise your organization out to ideological foes is not kosher, and I can't see any rationale for it. Frankly, it's like a gun control group saying it will open a rifle range that teaches 9-year-olds to fire Uzi submachine guns ... under the pretext that it will keep the gun nuts busy and away from their own clubhouse. That'd be wrong. And any dollars earned from such a venture would be extremely tainted.

I too will reconsider my status here. I don't shop at stores or buy products that support right-wing causes, and I'm afraid I'd have to apply the same rules here.

[DonCoquixote]

97. I can easily believe

That Skinner maybe thought that these people would stick to their own sandbox, however, if the Obama years have taught us anything, it is that trying to reach a hand out will only result in it getting bitten when the other side is flush with fortune and cash. These people do not leave DU alone, indeed they see it as a badge of honor that they have hijacked two sites.

[seaglass]

114. Great posts frazzled, I agree with you. n/t

[Texasgal]

67. This has gotten out of hand and needs to be dealt with.

I know that DI is separate, but when jerks like these do this kind of shit to DU Women it has crossed the line.


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ON Edit: The Doctor/ AKA Vash

[Texasgal]

68. and here we have Seabeyond kicked off 11,12?

13? times?

Seriously people?

[L0oniX]

113. She just got her 5th hide on DU.

[DonCoquixote]

127. Geesh

I would say when does it end, but I know better.

[boston bean]

69. wow.

[Texasgal]

70. yeah.

he actually called out seabeyond and baine before he edited his profile. This has gone waaaaay beyond internet bully talk. This is threatening and violent.

[sufrommich]

71. Good God,that is sick shit.

So he was that creepy Vasha dude,is anyone surprised?

[BainsBane]

90. No, I confronted him on that when he first joined

Someone else tipped me off to common avatars between the two, so I confronted him on being Vashta. Naturally he denied it, a bunch of people came to his defense and attacked me for being uncivil.

[ismnotwasm]

73. Total lack of imagination

So he's a racist, mysoginist troll who thinks he's the king of vile?

Not even close boy, I'd wipe my toilet with you and you're I-need-my-mommy vocabulary

That it's allowed it's something else. I didn't know you could do that shit over there. At least it got flagged. What an asshole.

[cui bono]

74. That is one seriously disturbed human being.

That's the kind of person who goes on violent rampages.

[nomorenomore08]

79. That level of hatred and rage is unfathomable to me. WTF happened in this guy's life? n/t

[savannah43]

116. He's probably a 30-year-old virgin.

[BainsBane]

91. What a pathetic loser

Imagine having a life so empty that the only sense of power you feel is by threatening to rape women online. What a sad, little man.

[hrmjustin]

76. After what I have seen tody on mirt and DI I say definitely yes.

Old trolls not seeming to let go of their woman hatred,

[el_bryanto]

84. My decision not to participate over there does seem wise

There's enough smoke and fire over here (at DU)without going to a place composed of nothing but that.

Bryant

[BainsBane]

95. Comment from a troll in Boston's thread

Now deleted but I managed to copy it. I post it so people can see what we are dealing with.

Bengal91 (1 post)

154. This is the thing I don't understand though

If you're so worried about people who hate feminists, why are you still a feminist? Why do you continue to provoke them, and make them even angrier by accusing them of hating women, when they really only hate feminists? It makes no sense. Feminism clearly has no place in the 21st century, so maybe it's time you abandoned it?

[NuclearDem]

98. Right, fuck it, I'm done.

Just logged out for the last time at that fucking site.

I've just had it.

[applegrove]

99. The right wing don‘t want forums to

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exist where a single women may sign into. Isolating their pray is how psychopaths try to change the thinking of a coveted group. In this case the GOP want a greater percentage of single women to vote for them. And how can that happen if single women log on and get to discuss actual issues unmolested. After all healthy people get lured into a cult when the psychopath takes something away from them to destabilize them. Looks like isolating femminists is how the GOP is going to roll this election season.

[William769]

101. I am so sorry that this is happening to such a great and wonderful group.

I am back from having major surgery and am recuperating but know that I stand with you all here (I refuse to go to that other site for many reasons, it's nothing but a cesspool).

I am not on as much as I use to be but I will try to change that as I get better.

Just know you have a friend in me and that I will have your back when I see it here (hope this makes sense).

[BainsBane]

102. Thanks William

IF you look at the Doctor's profile and Transparency page that Boston links to in her thread, you'll see a series of specific and graphic threats of rape against me, Redqueen and Seabeyond. A number of people seem to think that we just shouldn't read or discuss them, and the problem will go away. That despite the fact the person was also an active member on this site until a few hours ago.
I understand people disagree with us on a number of issues, but the reaction to news of the threats has been troubling.

[ismnotwasm]

103. I just asked Skinner in ATA if discussionist profits financially from DU

I don't know if the info is elsewhere, put people seem to want to know.

[JustAnotherGen]

108. Probably not at the rates DU

Offers - http://web.blogads.com/advertise/liberal_blog_advertising_network

But it's a fair question.

The thing is that DU is up high for hits - when you link here to there or vice versa - you get more traction. They could also keep their membership low but advertise off of site hits. If they are - it's clever strategy.

Regardless - its a cesspool of vile disgusting people who - I'm stunned at what I read in the profile from there that was c/p'd to DU. And that someone would physically threat BainsBane with sexual violence? For me to alert on someone - as I did on this thread - takes a lot. I also "own" my alerts publicly.

This isn't the political process - its a web forum. Ditto Discussionst. Time to make the jury and alerters fully transparent. If it will stop people from participating in juries for fear that there will be retaliation - then that is a site culture problem that needs to be addressed.

For everything one gains - there is something lost. I truly believe that. What is gained by the existence of Discuassionst (spelling is on purpose btw)? Who knows? What's lost? It's pretty clear to me.

However - it has opened up a vacuum - a sweet spot on the Internet . . .

[Squinch]

110. The admins are the same. The people profiting are the same. Every click and response supports them.

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We have all the answers we are going to get:

-They allowed Vashta to register at Discussionist after threatening violent rape on a member. If they can detect socks, they could have detected who he was when he registered there. If it had been important to them, they would have.

-They will not answer a simple question directly: "Is a rape threat a bannable offense?" The administrators are currently busying themselves blaming the victim and weaseling out of answering that simple question.

-They are also not answering the question that many people are asking: "Are you going to report this criminal behavior - that is happening on the sites you created and for which you are responsible - to law enforcement?"

We all need to face the fact: DU is not the community we have allowed ourselves to believe it is. It is glaringly, obviously not something by liberals for liberals. The administrators are not bothered by what we are seeing here.

The goal is increasing the profit. If words of violence against women lead to that goal, so be it. We are the means to achieving that goal. Nothing more.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

135. +1

We just need to talk to them or something. Or something.

Agreed. The fact that they let The Doctor/Vashta register there after what they pulled on DU speaks volumes about the admins and what they think.

[JTFrog]

136. They will never get another penny from me.

And I block ads.... even if I didn't, I wouldn't click on a single one. They have sold out big time.

[MadrasT]

137. The thing that killed it for me

Was when we had cross group support, across the women's/feminist groups, to amend the TOS to include misogyny, and had drafted up a very reasonable proposal... it was rejected because they didn't think it would make a difference.

If they didn't think it would make a difference,,, what HARM was there in adding it? As an olive branch to those of us who feel beaten down, shat upon, and marginalized?

Are they afraid they would lose manhood cred by caving to those horrible, awful feminists?

Fuck that.

I read news, I rarely contribute anymore, and I ad block.

Screw it.

This website has a gigantic white male privilege problem.

Alert. Hide this. I don't care.

[freshwest]

107. William, I hope you have a decent spot to sleep, last major surgery had me in a recliner to breathe.

Sending love your way. (((HUGS)))

[Phentex]

111. I don't have an account there...

I looked a few times the first few weeks and that was enough for me. However, I think the admins need to report these new threats to the proper authorities. Enough is enough.

[hlthe2b]

115. I want all here to read the content of a jury alert on which I just participated

The person who sent the alert wrote: I'm sick and tired of this group hating on the site and the administration. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they all got a clue from Redqueen and took a hike. Let them sign up at the 'Good Man Project' where they can take lessons in manipulating men into acceptable life forms. If those women hate DU and always bitch about it why yo they have their own special little safe haven to complaint from. Sorry, Skinner. You probably know how I feel. I have them on ignore and have HOF in the trash. I don't know how I clicked this topic. They should be called the mean girls group. They only care about defending each other and rape and porn. No other issues matter to them. They stir up trouble than they ever solve. I don't expect this to be hidden it's their group. I'm just tired of the this place sucks attitude. I hope they shit in their nest one too many times. And they lose their place to shit in. Leslie

I have not yet received the jury results. Abyssmal....

[sufrommich]

117. Sounds familiar.

[seaglass]

118. Did you get the results yet? Hopefully someone alerted on the alerter. n/t

[hlthe2b]

119. they voted to leave 6-1, much to the chagrine of the alerter I'd imagine

and yes, I did alert to Skinner. If this is not an abuse of the jury system, I don't know what is...

[BainsBane]

120. That at least is comforting

Which post was alerted on?

[hlthe2b]

121. this thread op

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125550174

[BainsBane]

122. I find an incredible disconnect

between the determination to criticize US governmental authority and insisting the administration of this site not be questioned.

[JustAnotherGen]

123. That's it . . .

There's "that" - isn't there BB?

And it's odd - that disconnect. Who is disconnected that is.

Maybe they have a touch of the authoritarian in them after all?

[JaydenD]

124. I'm not certain but I don't think Skinner takes those Alerts anymore.

I believe it was a fairly recent change in the system... and can't recall where I read that. Maybe somewhere in ATA.

Hope I am wrong because that would just put another marker with a 'we don't care' note on it.

[BainsBane]

125. There is no longer a TOS review

and they say all alerts go to administrators, but some of his responses in ATA suggest to me that he may not have read all of the alerts. I think there are far more alerts now than their used to be under the six person juries, as well as far more hides.