History of Feminism
Related: About this forumI would like to say thank you.
I'm not really sure how to start this, but I wanted to say thank you to all of the regulars here for what you do. Though this is just an internet discussion board, it has real effects on real people, and one of those people is me.
I've been a feminist all my life; my mother was an electrical engineer, a profession that is dominated by men. She raised me to think that there wasn't anything a man could do that a woman couldn't do just as well, and she was a great example. She taught me not to refer to women as girls and not infantalize (pretty sure that's a word, google spellcheck) them. She taught me to look at a woman not as separate from and equal to a man but instead as just another person. She taught me to be aware as much as I could be of my privileges as a man, and to work to help stop discrimination against women. I'm thankful she taught me all of this, and it's something that I will be grateful to her for a long time.
When I began reading DU about a year and a half ago, one of the first groups I homed in on was this one. Something here resonated with me, and I've loved reading the posts and discussions on this board since. I always liked learning from my mother, and this was another place to continue that learning. I have a ton of respect for all of you; I've watched you argue and fight on here every day for the rights of women and equality, and I've learned far more than I imagined I would. I don't post often here; 95% of the time I think I will post something, I instead keep my mouth shut and listen, and I'm glad I have. Some of my views have changed, and I now have ideas and interests that I never used to. You inspired me to become more vocal in my feminism among my friends and with other people I know, and you helped me to talk to and understand my best friend and girlfriend, a woman who has been through hell with an abusive and rapist ex. You already had an incredibly positive effect on my life.
But what I really wanted to thank you for was this: I've been struggling to figure out who I am. A few months ago, I first realized I might be attracted to men as well as women. It was a possibility I simply had never really thought about before, but as I thought about it, I realized it might be true. I had nothing against the idea, but it was a foreign one. The idea of liking a guy was just alien. Since I didn't really understand the feelings, I just kinda discarded them and didn't worry about them. Then, I forget when, but I read something I think either ismnotwasm or seabeyond posted, and it changed my life. It was a pretty simple idea, and I already mentioned it: women are people too. Now, that's something I've known all my life, and it wasn't news to me. But for some reason, when reading that post, I realized that the opposite was true too: so are men. We're all people. Just people. We're all a bunch of humans, and it doesn't make a damn difference whether our genitals are on the inside or the outside or stuck to our foreheads or not there at all. And I realized that I don't care whether someone I love or am attracted to is a man or a woman. If I like them, that's enough for me.
Realizing my bisexuality has been a huge change for me, and I'm still trying to process it. While I haven't talked to many people about it yet because I'm still confused, I'm learning to embrace it. I'm starting to understand myself better, and I'm loving it.
While that one post might not have affected me much, the cumulative effect of all that I read here did. It's changed me forever, and I will be grateful for that as long as I live. Thank you for all you say and do here. Thank you, so much.
-Jeff
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I strongly recommend this post.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)hlthe2b
(106,211 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Thanks for reading
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)My first voice back after another kick off the board, lol. And it is your welcoming post.
I cannot tell you how awesome your words are.
My 19 yr old son is back visiting. He is really getting close to a young woman going to school. Talking about her and things going on between the two, I was so enthused and excited how verbally expressive he is in his interaction with her.
I said to him... Do you tell Loren that I am the reason he expresses and interacts so well?
Laughingly taking credit for all he is creating. It was a joke.
He laughed and said ... I am at super hero status with Loren.
Feminist allow our boys to define their own masculinity instead of demanding our boys are conditioned by societal definition. I just cannot think how much more healthy our young men are.
An excellent story. I am so glad you shared.
Thank you.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I can distinctly recall her telling my girlfriend (coincidentally also a Lauren) that she was the reason for anything good about me
I'm glad to see that you're back, and I'm honored I'm your first post back here. Your words have helped me more than I can describe. Thanks
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)And you sound just like my son, writing and all.
E? Is that you? Trying to tell me something?
I tease. All in fun. Off to my nap, regardless of newly acquired posting privileges.
BainsBane
(54,728 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)once again.
sigh...
you know what the stalk alerting is for you? people actively looking for that fifth hide. my hides are spread enough. the stalk alerting will begin. only to have a kick off after kick off. regardless if the post warrants it at all. they just need four people that do not like us.
in time, the jury gathered will produce a desired result.
i have read juries, where a jury flat out states that is the intent in the hide.
how dare you post about a soccer game. not even the beck video.
BainsBane
(54,728 posts)Now that I'm down to two hides, I hope their motivation decreases. You will have to be very careful. All this defense of salty langauge doesn't apply to you, I'm sorry to say.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)lmFao. that would be fuggin' ass off.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Funny how people who stick up for all sorts of "bad words" can't handle a little profanity when it's directed at them.
BainsBane
(54,728 posts)Used in response to.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)BainsBane
(54,728 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)
Soccer games and talking about racism by cops can trigger similar disapproval.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,443 posts)I Suspect there's a bit of bisexuality in every human being, some have very little, some are perfectly balanced with it.
Thank you for your thank you, and may all of us continue to learn and grow from one another.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I couldn't agree more.
Squinch
(52,568 posts)This post is beautiful. You have touched me, and I am sure many others, the same way you say that others have touched you.
Blessings to you.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)I think that my exposure to feminists and feminism has been a very positive force in my life, too; and I am a male as well.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)wouldn't be surprised if it helped other just like how they helped you.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)That would make me pretty happy
Rider3
(919 posts)Live YOUR life, Jeff! Be happy!
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Realizing and accepting my bisexuality feels amazing.
BainsBane
(54,728 posts)and I am glad that you have become more comfortable with who you are. Men indeed are people too. We all are people, and loving one another is a very good thing.
I hope you decide to participate here more often. It sounds like we could learn a lot from you as well.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)While I've learned a lot by listening, maybe it'd be a good time to take another step and start discussing. Thanks for your efforts; I always enjoy your posts.
BainsBane
(54,728 posts)Kind of you to say. I hope we see more of you.
japple
(10,304 posts)And, knowing that there are people like you in this world who are so observant and wise fills me with gratitude. I hope you have a wonderful life.
blockquote] We're all people. Just people. We're all a bunch of humans, and it doesn't make a damn difference whether our genitals are on the inside or the outside or stuck to our foreheads or not there at all. And I realized that I don't care whether someone I love or am attracted to is a man or a woman. If I like them, that's enough for me.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I don't know if I'm too wise though--I think most of my friends would have other things to say about that
japple
(10,304 posts)your shit together. You'll do just fine.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Maybe it's time to peek out. Thanks!
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Those who realize that, far from being anti-male, feminism allows us to define masculinity for ourselves, rather than be trapped in outdated "macho" gender roles.
wryter2000
(47,367 posts)I completely appreciate all the wonderful men at DU who "get it." Nice to know another one.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)I try my best to "get it".
boston bean
(36,459 posts)My best to you!