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ismnotwasm

(42,443 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:17 PM Jun 2014

Flannery O’Connor Throwing Shade at Ayn Rand in 1960

Flannery O’Connor was both one of America’s greatest short story writers and one of our greatest snarky critics. Case in point, the following comments on objectivist “philosopher” and Atlas Shrugged author Ayn Rand:

I hope you don’t have friends who recommend Ayn Rand to you. The fiction of Ayn Rand is as low as you can get re fiction. I hope you picked it up off the floor of the subway and threw it in the nearest garbage pail. She makes Mickey Spillane look like Dostoevsky.

Burn.

http://electricliterature.com/flannery-oconnor-throwing-shade-at-ayn-rand-in-1960/



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Flannery O’Connor Throwing Shade at Ayn Rand in 1960 (Original Post) ismnotwasm Jun 2014 OP
Great comment, and TRUE. BillZBubb Jun 2014 #1
Oh yes ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #4
So true. K&R nt brer cat Jun 2014 #2
Superb critique of the Rand mystique. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #3
I LOVE Flannery O'Conner BainsBane Jun 2014 #5
I know right? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #6
She was brilliant. redqueen Jun 2014 #8
I love her stuff too. Guess we all have good taste. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #17
Kinda like the bone china calling the Tupperware tacky. argyl Jun 2014 #7
They are all in my book, which is called "Three By Flannery O'Connor." RiffRandell Jun 2014 #20
"Throwing shade"? SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2014 #9
"Throwing shade" - not cool! GarColga Jun 2014 #10
So it is Ayn Rand that comes off better than Flannery O'Connor? SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2014 #12
What you like Rand? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #13
No GarColga Jun 2014 #15
Ah I get it ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #16
Casting Umbrage PeoViejo Jun 2014 #11
Flannery O'Connor would rip the still beating heart out of an Ayn Rand character Generic Other Jun 2014 #14
"She makes Mickey Spillane look like Dostoevsky." nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #18
Huge Flannery O'Connor fan. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #19

ismnotwasm

(42,443 posts)
4. Oh yes
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:30 PM
Jun 2014

Having suffered through the actual reading of that-- book--(I rarely give up, I read "Gravity's Rainbow" --a book I adore--twice end to end so far, and favorite passages now and again and still brag about it a bit)

I STILL resent the good reading time wasted reading Atlas Shrugged. When I started learning about her "philosophy" I was even more pissed.

I love that this was from Flannery O'Conner in 1960.

ismnotwasm

(42,443 posts)
6. I know right?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jun 2014

In fact, I think I should revisit her-- it's been a while and I bought a copy of "The Complete Stories"

thought and challenge with a bite--

argyl

(3,064 posts)
7. Kinda like the bone china calling the Tupperware tacky.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jun 2014

O' Conner also wrote two brilliant novels, " Wise Blood" and " The Violent Bear It Away."

Flannery O' Conner gone way too soon at age 39. Ayn Rand spilling her nasty bile for way too long.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,652 posts)
9. "Throwing shade"?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jun 2014

Never heard that before. Assumed it was protection.

Happy nonetheless to see Rand readers getting schooled.

GarColga

(146 posts)
10. "Throwing shade" - not cool!
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jun 2014

When someone is "throwing shade" they are indeed bad-mouthing someone, only it is obvious to the audience that the one throwing shade is taking an unwarranted superior attitude!

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,652 posts)
12. So it is Ayn Rand that comes off better than Flannery O'Connor?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:10 PM
Jun 2014

Urban Dictionary:

throw shade
to talk trash about a friend or aquaintance, to publicly denounce or disrespect. When throwing shade it's immediately obvious to on-lookers that the thrower, and not the throwee, is the bitcy, uncool one
"How does Kimmy keep any friends? Last night at the party all she did was throw shade at people."


I'm so confused.

GarColga

(146 posts)
15. No
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:23 PM
Jun 2014

I'm just saying that the term "throwing shade" seems to have been misused. "Talking smack" would have worked.

ismnotwasm

(42,443 posts)
16. Ah I get it
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jun 2014

A perhaps overzealous writer trying out skills. So the title is a fail.

On second thought, O'Conner often wasn't out to be pleasant and this was 1960.

Generic Other

(29,000 posts)
14. Flannery O'Connor would rip the still beating heart out of an Ayn Rand character
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jun 2014

and make them beg for salvation.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
19. Huge Flannery O'Connor fan.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jun 2014

Just looked in my bookshelf and still have one of her collection of short stories from college, although the cover is missing.

Intelligent, talented woman.

I would have to say my favorite story by her is "A Good Man is Hard to Find" and remember the paper I wrote on it. Great story...highly recommend it if you've never read it.

Now I like her even more...thanks, and rec!

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