What I learned today on DU -

[Tuesday Afternoon]

You don't love sex unless you are willing to have it with any stranger that wants it and,
it is even better if they pay you.

Those are the only people that truly Love Sex.

What did you learn today on DU?

[Squinch]

1. Glad I missed that conversation.

Here's a not-good thing, though. Every time I see that headline in HoF, I just know that someone here was subjected to something truly egregious and ridiculous. I hate that I know to cringe in advance about things that are said on a site that calls itself "Democratic." Sorry you had to read that crap.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

3. Learning to Cringe -

I am sorry to have read it and, sorrier to know that people actually think that way.

but, Hey Squinch

Life in the real world is good. So good

[Squinch]

5. I am glad to hear it!

[cinnabonbon]

2. I learned that

if you disapprove of objectification of women, or criticize third-wave feminism, you're a fauxminist!

...Better if they pay you for sex? Yikes. Sounds like it's been an educational day on DU.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. cos you know ...

all those sex workers are getting paid and, they all truly love their job.

So, if you really love what you do, it is not really working, right?

oh yeah,

and

Doors.

A post like this is never complete until someone holds the door for someone else

[ismnotwasm]

12. The door thing again?

Somebody needs to do some door Zen time

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. it will always be a Doors post for me when I read something as stupid

as what brought about this OP. It is just ... Doors. Derp. Duh. and Stupid.

Doors.

haha.

Fucking Doors.

[Squinch]

6. Oh, FFS!!!! Here's what I effing learned: if a female judge takes a woman's kids away from

her because she had an affair and an abortion AFTER her divorce was final, it's probably a good thing. Because the judge was female. Nevermind that there is evidence that the father, to whom custody was given, was violent.

Jeesus, Mary and Frank! Is it trolls, or what? Am I just seeing more of it, and it's always been here, or is this really becoming the break room for the "men who can't quite hide their hatred for women" club??

[Tuesday Afternoon]

7. from what I am given to understand ...

these same kind of crap posts were on DU2 but, the moderating system usually dealt with this type of stuff so quickly that we did not realize this was always going on.

Now, with transparency and jury established community standards and being able to click and open hidden posts ...

We are now welcome to the seamy underworld that was always DU.



*feeling your pain*

[GeoWilliam750]

8. Indeed, possibly it has always been here but we did not see it

They are simply powerless people trying to feel a little less powerless, usually by showing that they can still have power over someone else - preferably women. They crave attention and respect whilst only finding pity.

Perhaps this is as it should be. They are to be pitied, as they pity themselves.

The problem is that pity seldom turns to respect, and self-pity almost never becomes self-respect.

[Squinch]

9. Wow. That is really well put.

[BainsBane]

15. +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. I do pity them.

Have told them I pity them to their cyber face. Trouble with me is I hold in contempt that very thing which I pity.

Supposedly, I am to empathize with them.

really?

[ismnotwasm]

23. I don't fucking pity them

I think they're assholes, I think they stir shit and I think they enjoy it. Yes, they're clearly damaged and are deserving of pity, but I'm not that kind

[Tuesday Afternoon]

24. They are most definitely stirring shit.

Just goes to show that damaged people are capable of stirring shit. The more damaged the more shit they stir.

Time was when chumming, baiting and shit stirring were dealt with more severely on this site. and more quickly.

There is another word for all this, of course, rhymes with bowl and lives under a bridge.

[GeoWilliam750]

43. No, there is no reason to empathise with such people

To hold in contempt and to pity might be mostly the same thing, except possibly that the object of contempt tends to have been more annoying, and the object of pity more pathetic.

I, too, cannot empathise with those people, and will not spend any minutes of my allotted years paying them the slightest attention, but am to some degree saddened that people who might otherwise lead better lives, instead drown in their cyber-bile - and are thus truly pitiful. They might have made their lives better, and by inference might have made a positive difference in world in which I live; that they have not saddens me, and makes the world in which we all live less, not more. I cannot help them, and will pay them no mind.

Their weakness does not become my strength, and I have no need of their approbation. I no longer have time to try to heal insatiable vampires, or to fill their limitless void - my minutes are numbered, and I have none for them. My time is mostly for the ten people about whom I deeply care.

I do have time however for what many of you on the HoF forum have to say - and believe that some of my minutes are worth spending here.

Whilst I may not agree with everything that everyone here says, I am better for having read many of the things you have posted and discussed here.

[mercuryblues]

52. thank you

for saying that.

[gollygee]

10. OK, I need a pm with a link or something

What the heck? Stuff gets bad here sometimes, but what?

[ismnotwasm]

11. That oblique references to no doubt sex-hating uptight alerting feminists

Are cutting edge humor. Arms are broken patting one selves on backs.

Also, there are number of people by process of response assessment are lousy lovers. Ick.

But it did bring to mind a great song

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. perfect song and spot on

Rock on- gold dust woman
Take your silver spoon
And dig your grave

Heartless challenge
Pick your path and I'll pray

Wake up in the morning
See your sunrise- loves- to go down
Lousy lovers- pick their prey
But they never cry out loud

Did she make you cry
Make you break down
Shatter your illusions of love
Is it over now- do you know how
Pick up the pieces and go home.

Rock on- ancient woman <- Should be Rock on - Ancient Queen
Follow those who pale
In your shadow

Rulers make bad lovers
You better put your kingdom up for sale

Did she make you cry
Make you break down
Shatter your illusions of love
Is it over now- do you know how
Pickup the pieces and go home.

[ismnotwasm]

31. ..

I thought so.

[JI7]

13. it's the type of things said by those who can't get anyone to have sex with them

[Squinch]

14. Coincidentally, I'm watching a rerun of "Women who make America," and this quote was just said:

"The bad behavior toward women by the guys on the left was particularly heartbreaking. It was a particularly intense betrayal."

That is my problem with the boys' club of DU.

[MadrasT]

16. ^^^ THIS ^^^

Uh-huh. Yep.

[ismnotwasm]

17. Exactly

It's strange but true in so many cases. Not all, though

[redqueen]

50. And the women on the left, even more so. nt

[Squinch]

53. Yes.

[ismnotwasm]

18. I just learned that someone is having "porn wars"

No clue what they are talking about just trashed the tread

[Tuesday Afternoon]

19. isn't it amazing how someone can start a thread with no link for proof and just by

claiming the porn war was started again .... wtf? down the rabbit hole.

thinking what?

chumming.

that is what it is called.

[ismnotwasm]

22. They must be bored

I couldn't find any links-- I have kept one poster on ignore because I think he's a troll, but he posts political stuff, usually.


So now it's "invisible porn wars".

Strange brew, that's all I'm sayin

[Squinch]

28. You know, I can't imagine that invisible porn is all that interesting. Certainly not worth a war.

[ismnotwasm]

34. LOL

Maybe they're practicing...

[Squinch]

44. Maybe they NEED the practice...

[DreamGypsy]

30. Strange Brew

I'm probably going to regret this reply...but I have visited this thread a couple of times today, trying to gather enough context through the fog of innuendo and sarcasm, and through the subtle conversational connotations of shared e-personal relationships, ... to figure out "What's going on" (thanks, Marvin Gaye). I would have much appreciated if the original post by Tuesday Afternoon (a pseudonym presumably chosen from the Moody Blues' first hit) had linked to the post where she/he learned those things on DU today (reminiscent of Tom Paxton's What Did You Learn in School Today), 'cause I couldn't figure that out myself.

Then, I discovered that someone had replied with a Gold Dust Woman (Fleetwood Mac) video. Where does that fit in???

So, when I read your comment, "Strange brew, that's all I'm sayin", suddenly I had a piton to which I could attach a rope!!!

So, my question is, does anyone really believe that Eric Clapton ever actually looked like this...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

32. bless you DreamGypsy

and NO, I can NOT believe that Eric Clapton ever looked like that.

and just because ,,,

[DreamGypsy]

40. In Search of the Lost Chord.

Gosh. I'm honored by your reply. Seriously. Tuesday... Afternoon...I'm just beginning to see...

I drove my parents' Cadillac, and a couple of friends, from Idaho Falls to Pocatello, to see the Moody Blues.

I'm so glad....my Eric Clapton looks more like this...

...and I'm so glad I don't look like Jack Bruce, yet ...

...though being an all time great bass player...would be quite a kick.

[ismnotwasm]

33. Heh!

Yes I do . He's an interesting person besides being a sublime musician. I shudder to think how many friends and lovers he lost to drug and alcohol addiction, and among the many things he's involved with this is one

http://www.rockersinrecovery.org

Don't worry about the thread--it's just a bit 'o venting

Here's Clapton from 5 years back

[Tuesday Afternoon]

35. woah. almost posted that one, went old school instead.

[ismnotwasm]

36. GMTA!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

37. indeed, good company

[Squinch]

27. They appear to be having these "wars" with the gremlins in their heads. Which, admittedly, must be

pretty scary little beings.

Think Pee Wee Herman doing that fly-swatting motion he did when he got anxious. That's what it's making me think of.

[BainsBane]

54. I noticed one was desperate for a fight with you

They are incensed they aren't getting the attention they so badly want. Must be the BennyBoy approach to online posting. Miserable on a Friday night, go find some women on line to visit all the problems in their lives on. I won't be feeding their shit fests with as much as a single post. I say let them wallow in their own self pity and rage.

[babylonsister]

26. Hahaha! A good day I still like to avoid. nt

[proudretiredvet]

29. I missed that lesson

[BainsBane]

38. I learn that if a feminist derivates by one syllable

from something an anti-feminist says in summarizing a position, she is creating "straw." When a man takes a comment one person says and tries to broad brush all the evil radical feminists who make the lives of poor downtrodden men miserable and someone challenges him on that assessment, he is responded to in a fit of rage and called "the most dishonest person" ever. Don't dare assert feminists are intelligent people with nuanced arguments. If someone wants to make it fit their one-dimensional view of the world, it is an outrage to challenge them on it. I've learned that some people are best left alone to wallow in their own self-pity and rage rather than be engaged.

[Squinch]

45. ^^^^Especially this part:

"left alone to wallow in their own self-pity and rage rather than be engaged."

Some of the Pee Wee Hermans doing the "swat the imaginary enemy" dance appear to be doing metaphorical handsprings in order to engage SOMEONE, ANYONE in a fight.

[Gravitycollapse]

39. I learned that I should let people be victims to domestic violence.

Because it's apparently none of my damn business.

[ismnotwasm]

41. I saw that

Friggin weirdo. I didn't want to get too involved in that thread because of the pig pile, but I did want to tell you I always speak up-- whether that means call the cops or yelling at situations. One time I saw two thugs dragging a third thug down the street and half beating his ass. I had my husband stop the car so I could yell What The Fuck at these assholes. I'm not stupid; this was day light and there were people around, but nobody cared. They just let it happen. I was pissed. They let him go after I cussed them out.


My husband is worse than me if he thinks someone is being harmed. He's the type of guy that always stopped to help a stalled vehicle, and would never allow a situation continue that sounded dangerous. He'd call the cops in a New York second

I'm a nurse so I always jump out at accidents if the first responders haven't gotten there.


To me these are civic responsibilities. Don't listen to the assholes. They're wrong and disturbed

[Squinch]

46. There is no impulse other than empathy for the perpetrators of the violence

that would lead someone to take that "none of your business" position in response to obvious domestic violence.

[BainsBane]

47. Say

I was told someone from that thread was harassing you. That should not be tolerated. I hope you reported the PMs to the administrators.

[Gravitycollapse]

48. Yes, they were harassing me by private message.

It is actually a host for the Lounge. They threatened to "remember" that I had their post hidden even though I wasn't the one who reported it. Then they brought up a couple of my past posts regarding the disillusionment of my previous relationship. They said I was "obsessive," "creepy," and "abusive" despite the fact that I left the relationship because I was being neglected and abused.

It was actually quite disgusting. I reported it to the administration but haven't heard back yet.

[BainsBane]

49. You are unlikely to hear back

But it will figure into their overall assessment of the poster should issues continue to arise.

The behavior you describe is abusive and not surprising such a person would be angry that you reported the abusive behavior of others to the police.

Remember that you did the right thing, and I would encourage you to do the same in the future. Knowing that neighbors are paying attention may help keep that couple from escalating their violence. Please don't let the reaction of an unstable person deter you from acting as a responsible citizen. Remember the vast majority of DUers support you.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

51. seems that DU has its own version of The Silent Majority ...

Care for a cup of irony, anyone ... ?

[JustAnotherGen]

42. I am so glad

I missed that thread.