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Related: About this forumSexism plagues major chemistry conference: Boycott emerges amid growing outrage
A group of female scientists promptly called for a boycott, but faced backlash from a prominent chemist who dismissed their efforts as nonsensical and trendy whining about supposed gender inequality.
Has anyone bothered to ask the organizers of the evil ICQC about their supposed gender inequality issues? Has anyone asked about the speaker selection criteria? Has anyone allowed, or asked, the evil organizers of the ICQC to provide a response so the members of the community can get BOTH SIDES of the story?
Has anyone determined the number of black/ Hispanic/ Asian/ American Indian etc. speakers to ensure there is no racial inequality? How about the number of speakers from every country on the planet to ensure these is no ethnic inequality? How about the height of the speakers? Has any ensured there is no vertical inequality by making sure that people of all stature are properly represented. What about weight? We wouldnt want to promote Girth Inequality, now would we? What about age? Hair color? Shoe size? Marital status? Claimed sexual orientation? Eye color? Nose length? Ability to hear? Ability to see? Ability to walk? Ability to talk? Every other disability status?
As one can see, once CCL starts down this path there is no end to the amount of whining and complaining that the list will have to endure. It will render CCL a wasteland of Political Correctness. Perhaps CCL should dedicate a part of their platform to related social issues such as these.
Nonsense.
If people want to discuss gender inequality they should start a forum on LinkedIn or Facebook or any of the many Social Media sites; or a WWMWICCL (We Want More Women I Computational Chemistry List) email list to which interested people may subscribe.
If you INSIST on discussing this on CCL, the please place an identifying header on all your emails so that those of us who care about SCIENCE, as opposed to trendy whining about supposed gender inequality and other fashionable modes of Political Correctness can at least have a hope of filtering out all of the nonsensical content and peruse the SCIENTIFIC content.
Kress doubled down in a followup email. Given that everyone has unique DNA, it is scientifically certain that no two people will be identical in terms of capabilities, he wrote. ALL SORTS of differences in capabilities exist in Chemistry, Physics, Biology, Math, etc. Those who work harder, overcome their capability deficient and make themselves equal to or better than their colleagues. Hard work is the way to address the capability issue and thus achieve equality.
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/20/sexism_plagues_major_chemistry_conference_boycott_emerges_amid_growing_outrage/
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Cretins, all of them.
boston bean
(36,460 posts)Damned women for bringing it up!
CTyankee
(64,929 posts)these guys historically throw up all kinds of barriers to women's progress, we fight back and eventually WE WIN. And who cares what that idiot or any other sexist has to say?
Give it up, fellas...
boston bean
(36,460 posts)We'll get our rights one way or another. Whether they like it or not. Must keep fighting!
CTyankee
(64,929 posts)I always include them in my blessings.
boston bean
(36,460 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,443 posts)Some of the posters on DU aren't unique in assholery-- they reflect certain aspects of society. But slowly, they're going the way of the steam engine. Too many men don't justify ridiculous sexist bullshit, they understand while the human form is beautiful; women are clearly objectified.
CTyankee
(64,929 posts)I read a lot more here than I respond to. Because some of it frankly is not worth my time or effort...and I know which ones are going to fade...I just stand back and see them slowly disappear...
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)redqueen
(115,164 posts)emphasis mine
hlthe2b
(106,213 posts)It is infuriating that this continues.
boston bean
(36,460 posts)One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Given that a Boycott is being conducted I presume there is a history of not responding to concerns about bias. Which is a shame cause if the bias is capable of skewing the gender ratio to such significance it's possible there is much more bias being injected. Assuming they are using a blind review of proposals/papers, then perhaps contradictory lines of investigation are being excluded?
I get the feeling that sexism is just the tip of the iceberg here.
JI7
(90,429 posts)usually people would listen to the concern and talk to people and try to address the issue.
but this type of reaction full of drama and outrage and exaggerations usually means they are trying to protect their place.