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The Complete Works of Andrea Dworkin free for download: (Original Post) xulamaude Dec 2013 OP
I highly recommend Letters From A War Zone xulamaude Dec 2013 #1
ok. thank you for rec and for putting this in its own OP. i bookmarked. my son will seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
Enjoy! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #5
Love this ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #3
24 Hour Truce xulamaude Dec 2013 #4
+1 MadrasT Dec 2013 #6
This will keep a certain nonhistorical group going for the next ten years BainsBane Dec 2013 #7
My pleasure! xulamaude Dec 2013 #9
Female Hitler??? I'm far from her biggest fan but that is just hilariously wrongheaded. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #11
To be fair BainsBane Dec 2013 #12
I know what you mean. Some guys just can't disagree without getting - you know - "hysterical." nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #13
I've never actually read anything by her gollygee Dec 2013 #8
Please do - you won't be sorry :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #10
She's awesome ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #14
Or this ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #15
Power over others (and its abuse) is really the crux of the problem. I think she was onto something nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #16
FWIW uppityperson Dec 2013 #17
That is perhaps the dumbest alert I have ever seen. And I've seen some doozies. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #18
 

xulamaude

(847 posts)
1. I highly recommend Letters From A War Zone
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:27 PM
Dec 2013

for reading when you are short of time or are commuting or on your lunch break or whatever.

It is a compilation of Andrea's speeches, essays etc. with a foreward for each to put them in context.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. ok. thank you for rec and for putting this in its own OP. i bookmarked. my son will
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:34 PM
Dec 2013

down load it for me when he gets here in a couple days, so didnt want to lose it.

computer stupid, but i have to learn

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
3. Love this
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 02:52 PM
Dec 2013

I periodically post "I want a 24 hour truce without rape"

That it still resonates so strongly it both a tribute to Dworkin and very sad.

 

xulamaude

(847 posts)
4. 24 Hour Truce
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:02 PM
Dec 2013

has to be one of the best speeches ever delivered.

(and I have noticed your postings of it - too bad so many fail to grasp the real meaning)

BainsBane

(54,666 posts)
7. This will keep a certain nonhistorical group going for the next ten years
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 04:54 PM
Dec 2013


Seriously, thanks xulamaude. It's time I read what the female Hitler has to say for myself.
 

xulamaude

(847 posts)
9. My pleasure!
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 05:01 PM
Dec 2013
Right Wing Women taught me more about myself and the way I used to think about other women than anything I have read before or since.

A big part of the reason I have understanding (if not warm fuzzies) for women like Palin and Schlaffley.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
11. Female Hitler??? I'm far from her biggest fan but that is just hilariously wrongheaded.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:33 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe somebody got her confused with Solanas... It happens...

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
13. I know what you mean. Some guys just can't disagree without getting - you know - "hysterical."
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 08:36 PM
Dec 2013

Ironic how they behave, over and over again, in the very way they accuse women of behaving.

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
14. She's awesome
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:05 PM
Dec 2013
I have thought a great deal about how a feminist, like myself, addresses an audience primarily of political men who say that they are antisexist. And I thought a lot about whether there should be a qualitative difference in the kind of speech I address to you. And then I found myself incapable of pretending that I really believe that that qualitative difference exists. I have watched the men's movement for many years. I am close with some of the people who participate in it. I can't come here as a friend even though I might very much want to. What I would like to do is to scream: and in that scream I would have the screams of the raped, and the sobs of the battered; and even worse, in the center of that scream I would have the deafening sound of women's silence, that silence into which we are born because we are women and in which most of us die.

And if there would be a plea or a question or a human address in that scream, it would be this: why are you so slow? Why are you so slow to understand the simplest things; not the complicated ideological things. You understand those. The simple things. The cliches. Simply that women are human to precisely the degree and quality that you are.

And also: that we do not have time. We women. We don't have forever. Some of us don't have another week or another day to take time for you to discuss whatever it is that will enable you to go out into those streets and do something. We are very close to death. All women are. And we are very close to rape and we are very close to beating. And we are inside a system of humiliation from which there is no escape for us. We use statistics not to try to quantify the injuries, but to convince the world that those injuries even exist. Those statistics are not abstractions. It is easy to say, "Ah, the statistics, somebody writes them up one way and somebody writes them up another way." That's true. But I hear about the rapes one by one by one by one by one, which is also how they happen. Those statistics are not abstract to me. Every three minutes a woman is being raped. Every eighteen seconds a woman is being beaten. There is nothing abstract about it. It is happening right now as I am speaking.

And it is happening for a simple reason. There is nothing complex and difficult about the reason. Men are doing it, because of the kind of power that men have over women. That power is real, concrete, exercised from one body to another body, exercised by someone who feels he has a right to exercise it, exercised in public and exercised in private. It is the sum and substance of women's oppression.


http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html

ismnotwasm

(42,433 posts)
15. Or this
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:07 PM
Dec 2013
Pornography is an essential issue because pornography says that women want to be hurt, forced, and abused; pornography says women want to be raped, battered, kidnapped, maimed; pornography says women want to be humiliated, shamed, defamed; pornography says that women say No but mean Yes--Yes to violence, Yes to pain.
Also: pornography says that women are things; pornography says that being used as things fulfills the erotic nature of women; pornography says that women are the things men use.

Also: in pornography women are used as things; in pornography force is used against women; in pornography women are used.

Also: pornography says that women are sluts, cunts; pornography says that pornographers define women; pornography says that men define women; pornography says that women are what men want women to be.

Also: pornography shows women as body parts, as genitals, as vaginal slits, as nipples, as buttocks, as lips, as open wounds, as pieces.

Also: pornography uses real women.

Also: pornography is an industry that buys and sells women.

Also: pornography sets the standard for female sexuality, for female sexual values, for girls growing up, for boys growing up, and increasingly for advertising, films, video, visual arts, fine art and literature, music with words.

Also: the acceptance of pornography means the decline of feminist ethics and an abandonment of feminist politics; the acceptance of pornography means feminists abandon women.

Also: pornography reinforces the Right's hold on women by making the environment outside the home more dangerous, more threatening, pornography reinforces the husband's hold on the wife by making the domestic environment more dangerous, more threatening.


http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIVB.html

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
16. Power over others (and its abuse) is really the crux of the problem. I think she was onto something
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 09:59 PM
Dec 2013

right there. And the fact that she was a Jew as well as a woman, who lived through the 20th Century with its virtually unprecedented atrocities, doubtlessly made her all the more sensitive to this reality.

uppityperson

(115,817 posts)
17. FWIW
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:23 PM
Dec 2013

At Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Power over others (and its abuse) is really the crux of the problem. I think she was onto something
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=32009

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

A Jew? That is so racist.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:19 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: words fail me
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I guess the poster could have said "And the fact that she was Jewish as well as a woman..." but I don't see anything inappropriate in that post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Foolish alert. It is a FACT. I too am A JEW. Alerter is a ??? Mormon, Presbyterian, Italian, African American???
Do NOT hide.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No, it's not.

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