History of Feminism
Related: About this forumxulamaude
(847 posts)for reading when you are short of time or are commuting or on your lunch break or whatever.
It is a compilation of Andrea's speeches, essays etc. with a foreward for each to put them in context.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)down load it for me when he gets here in a couple days, so didnt want to lose it.
computer stupid, but i have to learn
xulamaude
(847 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)I periodically post "I want a 24 hour truce without rape"
That it still resonates so strongly it both a tribute to Dworkin and very sad.
xulamaude
(847 posts)has to be one of the best speeches ever delivered.
(and I have noticed your postings of it - too bad so many fail to grasp the real meaning)
BainsBane
(54,666 posts)Seriously, thanks xulamaude. It's time I read what the female Hitler has to say for myself.
xulamaude
(847 posts)A big part of the reason I have understanding (if not warm fuzzies) for women like Palin and Schlaffley.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Maybe somebody got her confused with Solanas... It happens...
BainsBane
(54,666 posts)I don't believe I've heard anyone call her the female Hitler, but she is their bete noire.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Ironic how they behave, over and over again, in the very way they accuse women of behaving.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Maybe I should find out what the fuss is about.
xulamaude
(847 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)And if there would be a plea or a question or a human address in that scream, it would be this: why are you so slow? Why are you so slow to understand the simplest things; not the complicated ideological things. You understand those. The simple things. The cliches. Simply that women are human to precisely the degree and quality that you are.
And also: that we do not have time. We women. We don't have forever. Some of us don't have another week or another day to take time for you to discuss whatever it is that will enable you to go out into those streets and do something. We are very close to death. All women are. And we are very close to rape and we are very close to beating. And we are inside a system of humiliation from which there is no escape for us. We use statistics not to try to quantify the injuries, but to convince the world that those injuries even exist. Those statistics are not abstractions. It is easy to say, "Ah, the statistics, somebody writes them up one way and somebody writes them up another way." That's true. But I hear about the rapes one by one by one by one by one, which is also how they happen. Those statistics are not abstract to me. Every three minutes a woman is being raped. Every eighteen seconds a woman is being beaten. There is nothing abstract about it. It is happening right now as I am speaking.
And it is happening for a simple reason. There is nothing complex and difficult about the reason. Men are doing it, because of the kind of power that men have over women. That power is real, concrete, exercised from one body to another body, exercised by someone who feels he has a right to exercise it, exercised in public and exercised in private. It is the sum and substance of women's oppression.
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.html
ismnotwasm
(42,433 posts)Also: pornography says that women are things; pornography says that being used as things fulfills the erotic nature of women; pornography says that women are the things men use.
Also: in pornography women are used as things; in pornography force is used against women; in pornography women are used.
Also: pornography says that women are sluts, cunts; pornography says that pornographers define women; pornography says that men define women; pornography says that women are what men want women to be.
Also: pornography shows women as body parts, as genitals, as vaginal slits, as nipples, as buttocks, as lips, as open wounds, as pieces.
Also: pornography uses real women.
Also: pornography is an industry that buys and sells women.
Also: pornography sets the standard for female sexuality, for female sexual values, for girls growing up, for boys growing up, and increasingly for advertising, films, video, visual arts, fine art and literature, music with words.
Also: the acceptance of pornography means the decline of feminist ethics and an abandonment of feminist politics; the acceptance of pornography means feminists abandon women.
Also: pornography reinforces the Right's hold on women by making the environment outside the home more dangerous, more threatening, pornography reinforces the husband's hold on the wife by making the domestic environment more dangerous, more threatening.
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIVB.html
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)right there. And the fact that she was a Jew as well as a woman, who lived through the 20th Century with its virtually unprecedented atrocities, doubtlessly made her all the more sensitive to this reality.
uppityperson
(115,817 posts)At Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Power over others (and its abuse) is really the crux of the problem. I think she was onto something
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=32009
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
A Jew? That is so racist.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Dec 17, 2013, 07:19 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: words fail me
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I guess the poster could have said "And the fact that she was Jewish as well as a woman..." but I don't see anything inappropriate in that post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Foolish alert. It is a FACT. I too am A JEW. Alerter is a ??? Mormon, Presbyterian, Italian, African American???
Do NOT hide.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No, it's not.