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Breaking: Crowds Surround Congress in Madrid demanding freedom. LIVE (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Apr 2013 OP
I hope they stay safe! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #1
”He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.” Mika Apr 2013 #2
Really? Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #3
I gave up the freedom for corporations to poison water. Mika Apr 2013 #4
You did not give up freedom to them. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #5

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
1. I hope they stay safe!
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 01:36 PM
Apr 2013

If memory serves, Spain is a country that will use live fire.

But, fighting for freedom(s) is not a safe thing. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson/Ben Franklin (there is still argument on who said it) that said ”He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.”

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
4. I gave up the freedom for corporations to poison water.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 05:45 PM
Apr 2013

Does that mean that I don't deserve clean water?

We all give up some(one's) perceived freedom in order to live in a civil society.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
5. You did not give up freedom to them.
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 05:56 PM
Apr 2013

Unless you said it was OK. I truly doubt that one would do that.

They are trying to take it away. Thus you must fight to keep your freedom. Are you willing to fight the corporations to reclaime your freedom?

It is freedom that makes a true civil society. You start to give up freedoms, you start to give up a civil society.

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