How much of Old Testament to "include" in Jesus's teachings ?

[steve2470]

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The Old Testament is really my biggest concern with the Bible. The New Testament is great. I've read some pastors say, in so many words, that almost all of the OT has to be included with the NT, and I've read others who say almost none of it.

I'm confused to say the least.

[hrmjustin]

1. Most of his teachings was his interpretations of the ot and how God wanted people to treat others.

I believe the golden rule is in the ot.

[steve2470]

2. Yes

There is a passage in the Bible that people say "forces" you to include most of the OT in his teachings. That's really my question. Hope you are doing well Justin and are having a wonderful summer, my brother in Christ

[hrmjustin]

3. All is well. I am babysitting today so I skipped church.

Personally I don't put much into the ot. I like the nt idea of a God of love.

[L0oniX]

4. Ask them what part of the OT includes Grace.

Grace can't co-exist with law. There is no limited Grace or it is not Grace. Grace that is measured is not Grace. There are OT scriptures that include Grace though ...Psalm 136 id one ...and there are more. Pastors and church leaders use OT law to keep the money rolling in which works directly against giving from the heart. Eph2:8 is always good to keep in mind ...among many others. Of course this is just my belief and opinion from the understanding I have been given and that understanding did not come from me or any pastor.

PS: Never think or accept that a believer doesn't sin in the eyes of other people.

[steve2470]

5. I rarely go to church

I know some pastors/ministers would call me un-Christian for that, but I disagree. I'll have to read up on grace, thank you for that information !

[L0oniX]

6. If you want there is a guy who seems to really have a grip on the understanding of Grace.

He runs Grace Walk Ministries at http://www.gracewalk.org/. He's not my only source of info but he is one that preaches Grace. This guy turned completely around from being a hell fire law and punishment preacher.

[TreasonousBastard]

7. Here's one place to start...

http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_OldTestamentLaw.htm

If we were to include all the "law" of the OT, Christians wouldn't mix milk and meat and would go to temple on Saturdays. We'd be Jews with crucifixes on our prayer shawls.

Some of the history is just history, and stories like Moses escaping Egypt probably have some truth to them, but are no more or less meaningful than how the Great Wall of China was built. There really was a Solomon, btw.

The mythology, though, is probably the sticking point. Rabbis I've talked to tell me they don't take the Garden of Eden as seriously as wingnut Christians do. Jonah could not have lived in the belly of a fish, Job is a mythical figure signifying everyman, and Noah could not have built an ark big enough. And so it goes.