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Related: About this forumVictims, reports say boards to review church abuse flawed
https://apnews.com/66ffb032675b4e599eb77c0875718dd4These independent panels with lay people in each diocese would review allegations fairly and kindly. And they would help bishops ensure that no abusive priests stayed in ministry.
But almost two decades later, an Associated Press investigation of review boards across the country shows they have broadly failed to uphold these commitments. Instead, review boards appointed by bishops and operating in secrecy have routinely undermined sex abuse claims from victims, shielded accused priests and helped the church avoid payouts.
...Its a fraud. Its a sham. Its a cover-up, said David Lasher, 56, the owner of a furniture design company who told the review board in St. Petersburg, Florida, in April about his sexual abuse by a priest. Theres no one on the board that cares for the victim...its all about protecting the church.
What a shocker. And yet there are still those who try to defend this rotten, corrupt organization.
MineralMan
(147,386 posts)There's your problem right there. Putting a fox entry flap in your henhouse isn't wise. If the Bishops are at the heart of the problem, who does anyone suppose they'll appoint to such a review board? Ridiculous.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)It cannot submit to anything else, by definition. That is what makes the abuse worse. But whataboutists don't like to talk about that, so they whatabout.
MineralMan
(147,386 posts)Sadly, we tend to let major religious organizations do that. We should not.
Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)That proves its just human nature and in no way means organized religion is in any way responsible.
All the evidence the RCC had significant influence over police and the justice system, influenced parents to keep quiet, moved child rapists to other poorer counties to avoid prosecution, and allowed networks of child raping priests to share victims, well that could have happened anywhere. I mean after all, theres all sorts of secular organizations that enjoy absolute trust over all of these people, indoctrinated into them from birth, right?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Which is patently untrue, there are many mandated reporters who intersect with most families' lives - teachers, doctors, etc.
Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)At least in most states. And we know this is a recipe for insuring the child rapes and cover ups will benefit from this exemption because experts like prosecutors and child welfare advocacy organizations are telling us this. But some are still "unsure" and instead want to parrot out the RCC's own position on why that's a bad idea, because after all nobody really knows as much about child rape as the RCC. And the reason nobody knows as much about it is because the RCC won't release all their records going back decades with thousands of cases of members of their organization raping children and institutionalized cover ups and shielding rapists from prosecution in dozens of different ways. It's really more accurate to say nobody knows more about covering up child rape than the RCC because they simply have far more experience doing it.
The reason the RCC spends millions of dollars lobbying against secular accountability is pretty clear to anyone north of a room temperature IQ. But some are still "unsure" about it because of the exact same talking points the RCC is using as if everyone is just too stupid not to see through the child rape apologia.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)And now throw in the entire RCC hierarchy being exempted from mandatory reporting laws. Gee, what's the worst that could go wrong? How about... hmmm... what's actually happened?
Some people have no shame when it comes to protecting privilege for their religion.
But hey, we can always blame the victims for not coming forward sooner, right? /s
Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)And we know they are doing such a great job because we are fortunate to have a RCC water boy parroting our the RCCs own explanation of how they are doing such a great job.
temporary311
(957 posts)Surprising.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)Im sure theres some priest out there who has written an article on how secular regulation of the RCCs culture of child rape has no hope of working and how the RCC is doing such a great job of addressing this problem themselves.