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MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:30 PM Jan 2019

The Origins of "Genesis," or "Bereshit" in Ancient Hebrew

When was Genesis written and by whom? Excellent questions, both of them.

There's quite a good article on this on Wikipedia at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis

First, it's not as old as you might think, at least in its written form. Current scholarship believes it was first written in the 6th Century BC. Who wrote it? Well, the tradition says that Moses did, but that's not the current thinking. It's really a mish-mash of multiple authorship, collected together and edited to become what it is now.

Second, the name of the first book of the Bible comes from the first word on its first page, in ancient Hebrew: bereshit, which the Greeks later translated into Genesis. I'm not sure how to pronounce bereshit, and will not attempt to offer a pronunciation guide. I know nothing of ancient Hebrew. However, you can hear the word pronounced at the link below:

https://www.howtopronounce.com/bereshit/

For an alternative pronunciation, listen to:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bereshit.ogg

Third, why it was created is an interesting question. Some scholars think it was created on order of the Persians, in exchange for giving the Hebrews control of Jerusalem, following the Persian conquest of Babylon in 539 BC, which is linked to the claim that it was first assembled in the 6th Century BC.

Anyhow, there's lots more interesting information in the Wikipedia article about this long-lived work of tribal nomads that has had such an impact on the world.

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The Origins of "Genesis," or "Bereshit" in Ancient Hebrew (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2019 OP
By contrast, the Hindu Vedas were complete before 800 BC. MineralMan Jan 2019 #1
Enuma Elish cachukis Jan 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Jan 2019 #5
I believe the Babylonian captivity (around 530 B.C.) was the ground packman Jan 2019 #3
Very likely. MineralMan Jan 2019 #4
Methinks the stories had been around for a while. cachukis Jan 2019 #6
Oh, yes, in one form or another. MineralMan Jan 2019 #7
Could this be a point of control of "the sons of god," cachukis Jan 2019 #8
Syncretism Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #9
Nothing new under the Sun, I guess. MineralMan Feb 2019 #10

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
1. By contrast, the Hindu Vedas were complete before 800 BC.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jan 2019

The early Egyptian "Pyramid Texts" date back to 2400-2300 BC.

The Barton Cylinder, containing a Sumerian Creation story, dates back to 2400 BC.

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packman

(16,296 posts)
3. I believe the Babylonian captivity (around 530 B.C.) was the ground
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jan 2019

that inspired the Jewish writers in their incorporating it in their mythology.

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
7. Oh, yes, in one form or another.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:24 AM
Jan 2019

Pretty much every religion and culture has a creation myth. That's a response to the natural human curiosity about where all this stuff originated. The old storytellers came up with stories about that, right out of the box. Those myths go in all sorts of directions, but they answer the question satisfactorily for their audience.

Tribal chieftains and their storytellers had strong relationships with each other. The chieftain was in charge of what to do, and the storyteller was in charge of explaining why.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
9. Syncretism
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:16 AM
Feb 2019

Much of the early Genesis narrative was takenfrom the Enûma Eliš and the Epic of Gilgamesh, absorbed into Jewish tradition while the Israelites were captive in Babylon. That would be 605 - 539 BCE... surprise, surprise.

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
10. Nothing new under the Sun, I guess.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:24 AM
Feb 2019

Many people think that Judaism and the Old Testament are the oldest scriptures on the planet. Of course, they're not, but in our insular world, people don't do any research on their belief systems. More's the pity.

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