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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:28 AM Jan 2019

Should Catholics celebrate pagan events at Mass, like Chinese 'New Year'?

Note: I do not support this site or the view of the author of this article. Obviously.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/should-catholics-celebrate-pagan-events-at-mass-like-chinese-new-year

A reader from Australia wrote to me about an issue he believed was not being adequately addressed by Catholic clergy. Since the Second Vatican Council, bishops and priests have shown a tendency to a thoughtless “inculturation,” with the adoption of pagan customs that may seem “harmless” until one examines them more carefully.

It would seem that the Chinese Lunar New Year, which will take place on Tuesday, February 5, is celebrated in many Catholic churches throughout the world, despite its connection with Asian astrology. My correspondent’s parish priest, of Vietnamese background, avidly celebrates the Lunar New Year with a Mass and even refers to the particular animal symbol of the year (last year being “The year of the dog”) from the pulpit, thus giving tacit approval of the astrological significance of the practice. He places a statue of the particular animal into the precincts of the church. Is this not an insult to Jesus present in the tabernacle, only a short distance away?

The Australian gentleman made his displeasure known at a parish council meeting, but the parish priest was unmoved—he rationalizes the practice as simply “cultural” and believes that the astrological aspects are ignored by the congregation. We ought to be concerned, however, about solemnizing a pagan New Year with its animal symbol at a Mass. If there is even a chance that this is a sacrilegious act, or worse, that paying lip service to it may open a door to demons, it should be avoided altogether.


I wonder if anyone in this very serious story set up a Christmas tree this past holiday season. You know, like Jesus did in the Middle East.
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Should Catholics celebrate pagan events at Mass, like Chinese 'New Year'? (Original Post) trotsky Jan 2019 OP
Them damned demons!! Always looking for a way in. Glamrock Jan 2019 #1
Where's Buffy the Vampire Slayer when you need her? thucythucy Jan 2019 #3
I had to rent a dumpster to toss the last influx out. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #5
This kinda jumped out zipplewrath Jan 2019 #2
odd, as especially the RCC has thrived on syncretism. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #6
Based on my study of ancient British comedy groups... ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #8
nearly everything that we consider catholic (and by extension protestant) rampartc Jan 2019 #4
Go Fish Cartoonist Jan 2019 #7
So basically, those old Christian ladies are driving around with VaJayJays on their cars? nt ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #9
Yes, pretty much. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10
Jesus' parents couldn't get a room due to the Christmas rush in Bethlehem Major Nikon Jan 2019 #11
Ah, fundies...forever forgetting how it all came to be. MineralMan Jan 2019 #12

Glamrock

(11,994 posts)
1. Them damned demons!! Always looking for a way in.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jan 2019

If there was only some kind of higher power that could battle them on the ethereal plane they come from....

thucythucy

(8,738 posts)
3. Where's Buffy the Vampire Slayer when you need her?
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jan 2019

Seriously, I'm a huge fan. I especially liked the episode with the dancing/singing/tap-dancing demon.

A triple threat, no less.

zipplewrath

(16,690 posts)
2. This kinda jumped out
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jan 2019
The Church conquered pagan cultures best when she unapologetically insisted on imposing the form of her Faith upon the minds and hearts of the people to whom she brought the Word of God.


The author might want to think about how that "imposition" occurred before deciding to champion the practice.

Voltaire2

(14,677 posts)
6. odd, as especially the RCC has thrived on syncretism.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jan 2019

Although to be fair there was quite a bit of coercion involved as well.

ExciteBike66

(2,640 posts)
8. Based on my study of ancient British comedy groups...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jan 2019

the Catholics were always most successful when no one expected them...

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
4. nearly everything that we consider catholic (and by extension protestant)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jan 2019

was syncretized from older, mostly pagan, religions. christianity owes more to the ptolemaic god serapis (himself a syncretism of greek mystery religion on to the egyptian religion. ) than to mosiac judaism. and then there was constantine, baptized but not quite converted, who wanted a religion to unite all of his subjects. ........

MineralMan

(147,445 posts)
12. Ah, fundies...forever forgetting how it all came to be.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

Do they remember that shining star that appeared. Pure astrology. The Christmas tree? European paganism. Easter? Odd that it has the same name as a pagan fertility celebration in the springtime. And why was the supposed date of Jesus birth sometime around the Winter Solstice. I mean, really, guys...

Demons? I see...hmm...

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