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Related: About this forumAtheists, non-believers say 'In God We Trust' has no place in Nebraska classrooms
https://fremonttribune.com/news/local/education/atheists-non-believers-say-in-god-we-trust-has-no/article_5168943c-1657-5b26-a3a2-a1912622aaf6.htmlCall it an act of God or don't that a Tuesday snowstorm kept would-be testifiers on a bill requiring "In God We Trust" from filling up the Legislature's Education Committee hearing room.
In a marathon 2 1/2-hour hearing, all but two of the dozen people who testified on the first day of committee work called Sen. Steve Erdman's bill (LB73) a naked attempt to inject religion into Nebraska's public school system.
Erdman's proposal would require the national motto adopted by Congress in 1956 to be hung in all classrooms or school common areas.
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Joseph Couch of Lincoln, who told the committee he was an atheist, said bills such as Erdman's are part of a national trend "to distort the definition of religious freedom and our nation's history," coming as more people are abandoning religion in the U.S.
In a marathon 2 1/2-hour hearing, all but two of the dozen people who testified on the first day of committee work called Sen. Steve Erdman's bill (LB73) a naked attempt to inject religion into Nebraska's public school system.
Erdman's proposal would require the national motto adopted by Congress in 1956 to be hung in all classrooms or school common areas.
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Joseph Couch of Lincoln, who told the committee he was an atheist, said bills such as Erdman's are part of a national trend "to distort the definition of religious freedom and our nation's history," coming as more people are abandoning religion in the U.S.
Some people - including an occasional DUer - will chide atheists and non-believers on separation battles over "In god we trust" and other mild nods to theocracy. This kind of shit is why we fight. You give an inch, they take a mile. Now they can frame their bill as displaying "the national motto" instead of acknowledging it to be a specifically religious slogan.
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Atheists, non-believers say 'In God We Trust' has no place in Nebraska classrooms (Original Post)
trotsky
Jan 2019
OP
It seems the motto needs to be updated. "In Vlad We Trust" would be more appropriate
brewens
Jan 2019
#1
A priest once told me dead guy rose from the grave and played "guess who" with 12 of his friends.
Act_of_Reparation
Jan 2019
#3
when mrs. unblock converted to judaism, she asked the rabbi, "i'm an atheist, is that a problem?"
unblock
Jan 2019
#4
brewens
(15,359 posts)1. It seems the motto needs to be updated. "In Vlad We Trust" would be more appropriate
for some people anyway.
greymattermom
(5,794 posts)2. A rabbi once told me
that Jews believe in God, but they can believe that God is anything they want G-d to be.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)3. A priest once told me dead guy rose from the grave and played "guess who" with 12 of his friends.
Don't believe everything you hear.
Major Nikon
(36,899 posts)5. Nailed it
(pardon the pun)
unblock
(54,128 posts)4. when mrs. unblock converted to judaism, she asked the rabbi, "i'm an atheist, is that a problem?"
the rabbi said, "i hope not, i'm an atheist, too!"
christianity is a religion of faith. membership in christianity is very closely tied to belief in god (and jesus).
judaism is a religion of identity. we *have* a god in our religion, but belief in god is not a necessary part of *being* jewish.
NeoGreen
(4,033 posts)6. I always ask, "What's Wrong with the One-And-Only Original US Motto"?...
...you know, the one created by the Founding Fathers, and which was so universally accepted they didn't even have to vote on it.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)7. It was a far superior motto, one that literally united us.
Stupid Red Scare.
Sneederbunk
(15,051 posts)8. Kids need to leave cash at home.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)9. Because that's the same thing as a school promoting the display of a religious message, right?
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)10. The phrase "In God We Trust", in my view, is an unacceptable
attempt to inject religion into a secular setting.