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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:17 AM Feb 2012

Anyone ever attempted trying to tie a knot with braided fishing line?

Tried to put some Spiderwire Ultracast Invisibraid on my reels and I could not tie this stuff so it would stay tied. Too slick. Tried every knot tying trick in the book with no luck whatsoever. Put a little tension on it and it untied itself and came right off the reel spool every time. Crazy.

Someone told me to put a drop of crazy glue on the knot and that will do it. Is that a good idea? Anyone ever try that?

Going to have to try something here.

Don

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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
2. I tried every kind of knot I could think of with this stuff including an arbor knot
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:24 AM
Feb 2012

My eyes aren't worth a heck though so there is a good chance I am not doing it correctly.

And this stuff is real thin too. Almost like hair. Which doesn't help matters.

Don

seeviewonder

(461 posts)
3. Try to just stick with a good monofilament line.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:44 PM
Feb 2012

I've never been a fan of braided line, especially when it comes to true baitcaster reels. If you just purchase a stronger/thicker mono line it will be about the same effect. And the arbor knot is your best bet as the other postet mentioned. I recommend Stren, personally, but I like SpiderWire mono as well. What do you fish for usually?

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
5. Usually fish for lm bass
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:58 PM
Feb 2012

Sometimes I hook or snag a large carp or catfish while doing that because I like jigging. Also go to the Kankakee river and fish for sm bass, walleye and pike with the same gear so I need the line strength at a smaller diameter because occasionally I need almost a hundred yards of line. That is why I got away from the mono.

Don

seeviewonder

(461 posts)
7. I typically fish for largemouth also.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:16 PM
Feb 2012

I understand your need for braided line in that situation, though.

 

Magleetis

(1,260 posts)
4. Have you tried a Palomar knot?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:12 AM
Feb 2012

It works for me. I agree with the other posters about mono. You can also try flourocarbon if you want less stretch. The Crappie spawn is in full swing down here in Louisiana. Slabs!

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
6. I tried fluorocarbon last year and initially had the same problem trying to tie that
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:05 PM
Feb 2012

I just practiced with it for a while and finally got that figured out. Someone talking me into trying braided and now it is like starting all over again learning how to tie a knot. Probably that is what I am going to need to do with the braid. Just practice with it for a while. I did try the Palomar but I may need to practice with it some more.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.

Don

Callisto32

(2,997 posts)
8. I'm going to presume that this is a synthetic material here.
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 05:48 AM
Mar 2012

Frankly, this is just a thought I had 12 minutes after I woke up but...

Have you tried melting it slightly? Maybe use a hot needle or pin to melt a very small part of the line, like a spot weld for plastic?

I don't know if you can do this while preserving the tensile strength, though, so, again, just a thought.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
9. Not sure if it is all synthetic but I would guess it is
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 04:46 PM
Mar 2012

Has the braided material in the middle and then some type of coating over that. Positive the coating is synthetic. Not sure about the braid?

I have been practicing with it for a few days and think I have it figured out now. Went fishing today and the knots held up fine. Casts very smooth too.

Only thing I caught was a stick fish. Pretty good size stick fish though.

Thanks for the advice.

Don

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
10. I use Spiderwire in my antenna shooter
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 03:30 AM
Mar 2012

The ol' slingshot/fishing reel trick. Palomar knot usually keeps the line attached to the sinker...

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
11. Had a friend with a cross-bow and a fishing reel install my Carolina Windom
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:40 AM
Mar 2012

All I had to do was point out the branch I wanted it over and he hit it the first shot.

He was just using mono though.

Don

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
12. Bows are a little hard to use these days...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:53 AM
Mar 2012

The neighbours calling the police and all that...

With the spiderwire, I could shoot a 1-Oz sinker twice as high as I could one with 10-pound mono.

safeinOhio

(33,957 posts)
13. Go up a foot or two and double the line up,
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:38 PM
Mar 2012

or kind of make a loop, only squeeze it together into a point. Then push the doubled up loop, or point, thru the eye. Pull out a lot of line, still doubled up and then open the loop and drop the lure thru it and pull it tight.

Easiest knot to tie and very fast. Never had that knot slip off. Hard to believe it is so easy.
Don't know the name of it. Got a free little book on knots at Bass Pro or Cabela's, can't remember which, that showed how to do it.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
14. I figured the knot tying out but now I have another problem
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 08:23 AM
Mar 2012

When I get snagged in the brush or a tree with this line I can't break it.

I am dying from a thousand cuts all over my hands trying to get it to break. If it is just the hook snagged it is no problem. Just pull the lines until I straighten the hook out. But if the line gets wrapped around something there is no breaking this line. All I can do is get close and cut it with scissors.

Some tough stuff.

Don

safeinOhio

(33,957 posts)
15. When you pull hard on it like that,
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 08:32 AM
Mar 2012

you'll find that the line on the reel will cut deep into the rest of the line on the spool. Will screw up cast after that.

On the other side, you can feel the slightest bite. Great for deep fishing for perch down 30 or 40 feet. Also great for ripping a top water lure thru the pads when it is hung up.

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