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sl8

(16,137 posts)
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 06:59 AM Apr 2023

Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/04/20/rural-americans-are-importing-tiny-japanese-pickup-trucks

Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks

Bigger isn’t always better



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Apr 20th 2023 | CHICAGO

A couple of years ago Jake Morgan, a farmer who lives just outside Raleigh, in North Carolina, realised he needed a new vehicle to get around his property. At first he was looking at “side-by-sides”—a sort of off-road utility vehicle. But watching a review on YouTube of one that costs around $30,000 made by John Deere, he saw a comment that said something like “Why don’t you just get a minitruck instead?” That is, a tiny four-wheel drive pickup truck, sometimes known as a “Kei” truck, mostly made in Japan to take advantage of laws there which tax smaller vehicles less.

Intrigued, Mr Morgan started researching. Within a few months, he drove to Newport, Virginia to pick up a 1997 Honda Acty, having spent a total of just $2,000 on importing it. He was delighted. Not only was it “dirt cheap”, but the Acty is less than five feet wide, and so can get into tight spaces a normal pickup cannot, like Mr Morgan’s barn. And unlike a side-by-side, it can also be driven legally on local roads. “They’re amazingly useful,” he says. Not long after importing his first, he sold it and bought another. The new one is even better—it has air-conditioning and a button which activates a dumper.

Kei trucks were never intended for sale in America. Most are right-hand drive, and they do not always have airbags or other safety features required in new cars. The bulk are imported under a rule that allows non-compliant vehicles that are older than 25 years to be brought into America, a carve-out intended originally for collectible vintage cars, although a few specialist dealers import newer ones too, for sale as off-road vehicles. They fill a niche American manufacturers are failing to.

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Unlike new vehicles with onboard computers and complicated proprietary parts, Kei trucks are easy to modify and repair. In northern Wisconsin and Minnesota, people fit them out with tracks to drive on ice in winter. Some owners are almost cultish. “MotoCheez”, a mechanic from Connecticut, says his YouTube channel’s popularity soared after he started featuring his Kei truck.

This article appeared in the United States section of the print edition under the headline "What a Kei-motion"

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Rural Americans are importing tiny Japanese pickup trucks (Original Post) sl8 Apr 2023 OP
What happened to made in America?.............. Lovie777 Apr 2023 #1
What happens when America doesn't make them? FSogol Apr 2023 #2
Don't buy them. gab13by13 Apr 2023 #4
It's a global economy, like it or not. paleotn Apr 2023 #9
Americans it seems by the type of truck kacekwl Apr 2023 #26
What kind of market do you think there would be for this type vehicle here? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #6
Americans will not discard their giant usually driven by one person pickups! Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #7
With China opening 2 new coal plants a WEEK, profits ARE safe! oldsoftie Apr 2023 #29
Au contraire! 2naSalit Apr 2023 #15
Same here in west central Florida. My town has a bunch of them along with the little Vans. mitch96 Apr 2023 #27
What happened to an understanding of how economics actually works? paleotn Apr 2023 #10
What happened? How about all the companies that left because they did not niyad Apr 2023 #13
America seems only to be making giant cup-holder-full trucks Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #14
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #16
Check out the Ford Maverick small truck which has beat the Japanese to the punch YorkRd Apr 2023 #22
They're still pretty huge, really. And all cab with little work space. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #23
Yup, compaired to the little "KEI" cars it's an aircraft carrier...nt mitch96 Apr 2023 #28
Never know when you might need to rescue granny from the deep woods she keeps wandering off to! Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #30
"And unlike a side-by-side, it can also be driven legally on local roads." mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2023 #3
True. sl8 Apr 2023 #5
Yep. Big fight in some towns in Vermont. paleotn Apr 2023 #11
I'd trade my older f150 for a Toyota fourth or fifth generation 5 speed V6 in a New York minute. harumph Apr 2023 #8
Oh hell yes NJCher Apr 2023 #12
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #17
I've seen a couple on the road in my area Red Mountain Apr 2023 #18
MAGAs gonna need smaller flags 😂 Roy Rolling Apr 2023 #19
Bahahahaha! Well done! Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #24
Extremely unsafe. The market for these is too small to make safety compliant YorkRd Apr 2023 #20
I have a Kubota 520 side by side. The Jungle 1 Apr 2023 #21
so funny Kali Apr 2023 #25
An enthusiast's POV, and some details: Mopar151 Apr 2023 #31
oh those are tiny BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #32

gab13by13

(23,995 posts)
4. Don't buy them.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 07:46 AM
Apr 2023

I buy Subarus made in Indiana, not Japan. I buy washers and driers made in Wisconsin, not Mexico.

Sure there are parts made in other countries in my items but they are assembled in America.

paleotn

(18,771 posts)
9. It's a global economy, like it or not.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:38 AM
Apr 2023

Most of the parts in your Indiana built Subaru are made not only in Japan, but all over the world. Same for GM and Ford.

kacekwl

(7,306 posts)
26. Americans it seems by the type of truck
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 12:18 PM
Apr 2023

sold here want big and bigger so they can carry that 2 by 4 they buy once a year. I had a 97 Ford Ranger for years. Best truck ever, carried most anything I needed. Good 4cyl mileage fit in the garage and my wife (and me) could get in and out easily. This size truck is no longer made by any manufacturer. People who actually use a truck for work like the farmer buy vehicles that work not to roll coal or any such nonsense.

oldsoftie

(13,365 posts)
6. What kind of market do you think there would be for this type vehicle here?
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:22 AM
Apr 2023

Probably not much; which is why they're not made here.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. Americans will not discard their giant usually driven by one person pickups!
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:28 AM
Apr 2023

Rolling coal baby! Not to worry fossil fuel company shareholders, the profits are safe!

2naSalit

(90,871 posts)
15. Au contraire!
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:58 AM
Apr 2023

They are all over the place out here in rural Montana. I see more of them every year.

mitch96

(14,428 posts)
27. Same here in west central Florida. My town has a bunch of them along with the little Vans.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 12:55 PM
Apr 2023

I see two local bicycle shops have them. Then again my town has a bunch of street legal electric golf carts people run around in. The ordinance is that the little pickups and van cant go in major highways... No big deal. They are only 660 cc anyway...
Hummm i wonder if you could electrify them? Now that would be neat...
A REAL Tampa Bay Lightning, eh?
m

?

niyad

(118,048 posts)
13. What happened? How about all the companies that left because they did not
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:55 AM
Apr 2023

want to pay decent salaries or actually observe various rules and regulations, or, in some cases, deal with unions?

Scrivener7

(52,108 posts)
14. America seems only to be making giant cup-holder-full trucks
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:57 AM
Apr 2023

with full video systems that promise you will rescue people in the frozen tundra, prove your manhood and conquer the great outdoors as you drive to the grocery store. That cost the average annual salary of an average American worker.

YorkRd

(341 posts)
22. Check out the Ford Maverick small truck which has beat the Japanese to the punch
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:41 AM
Apr 2023

“The Ford Maverick compact pickup sells new for prices ranging from $24,190 to $35,165 before options, but used examples have an average $36,777, which is 12.3% higher than their list price average.”



https://www.foxnews.com/auto/used-ford-maverick-pickups-cost-more-new

Scrivener7

(52,108 posts)
23. They're still pretty huge, really. And all cab with little work space.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 10:00 AM
Apr 2023


I am acquainted with a local landscaper. When he went to buy a working truck, he ended up getting a very old used one because the new ones were just not built to do work.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
30. Never know when you might need to rescue granny from the deep woods she keeps wandering off to!
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 03:12 PM
Apr 2023

A truck costing at least 50k is a necessity.

mahatmakanejeeves

(59,815 posts)
3. "And unlike a side-by-side, it can also be driven legally on local roads."
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 07:43 AM
Apr 2023
And unlike a side-by-side, it can also be driven legally on local roads.

Depends. Not always.

harumph

(2,145 posts)
8. I'd trade my older f150 for a Toyota fourth or fifth generation 5 speed V6 in a New York minute.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:36 AM
Apr 2023

If I were able to fine one in great condition. Problem is, the prices have skyrocketed in recent
years and they are now quite collectable. For a while in college, I worked part time as a medical
specimen courier for a local reference lab. They had a fleet of these 1986ish trucks. We drove
the hell out of them. One of them had 386K and was still going strong. Overpowered, small and easy to
park and could still tow anything I could want.

NJCher

(37,199 posts)
12. Oh hell yes
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:52 AM
Apr 2023

I know some rurals who would probably have a couple of them. Some of these people have huge properties and would find them useful and economical to get around.

As far as Detroit goes, they’re known for huge lapses in marketing judgment. How many times has Japan eaten their lunch?

2naSalit

(90,871 posts)
17. +1
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:09 AM
Apr 2023

They are replacing the open quads that were all the rage for a couple decades out here. Getting caught out in the open in the hot sun, a squall or worse and being a couple miles from shelter sucks. Something small with a cab is the preferred transport around the ranch these days. I see them all the time out here. They hit the scene back in '14 in this area.

Red Mountain

(1,828 posts)
18. I've seen a couple on the road in my area
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:10 AM
Apr 2023

north of Durham, NC.

I'm intrigued.

There's a dealer importing them not too far away.....looks like they run about 4 or 5k cheaper than a new side by side.

A side by side is enormously useful to anybody raising livestock.

YorkRd

(341 posts)
20. Extremely unsafe. The market for these is too small to make safety compliant
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:31 AM
Apr 2023

Manufacturers have struggled to sell new basic trucks for decades. The market has spoken. Used small trucks have always been popular but the new market for them is too small to be profitable. What the market will buy is a small suv with a small pickup bed like the wildly popular Ford Maverick.

It would be great comedy to crash test one of these “kei” trucks. I bet the result would just be a pile of parts.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
21. I have a Kubota 520 side by side.
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 09:41 AM
Apr 2023

It was not 30 grand. MSRP 9,999. If the mini costs 2000 to import plus the purchase price and it is 26 years old??? My machine has two year warranty and is brand new. Well not anymore.
The 520 is built like a tractor, very solid. I am retired and I use this machine a lot, in fact every day. It has four wheel drive and I can lock the rear. I need that on my property. If you put it in low it crawls like a tank. The machine also has a dump bed and I can tow a trailer if I need more load capacity. I can plow snow with it. It is also a mobile work bench.
Those mini trucks look like they would work good on large flat fields. It is to long for my woods. My 520 is only 105 inches long and 54" wide.
Why import something that is 26 years old?

Kali

(55,498 posts)
25. so funny
Sun Apr 23, 2023, 10:31 AM
Apr 2023

son and I were JUST talking about these and what a rip off the side by sides and other utility vehicles have become! WANT!!!

Mopar151

(10,145 posts)
31. An enthusiast's POV, and some details:
Mon Apr 24, 2023, 02:02 PM
Apr 2023

Apparently Cushman imported some Dihatsu mini's as "off highway vehicles".


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