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Thursday TOONs (Dec. 7th) (Original Post) KS Toronado Dec 2023 OP
Thanks. I feel priviledged to have know people from that generation. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #1
I hear ya KS Toronado Dec 2023 #4
Great. I also always think of the ones at home waiting for them to come home; or not. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #7
KNR niyad Dec 2023 #2
My dad was there. He was a 19-year-old airman at the time. tblue37 Dec 2023 #3
Photograph Emerges of Antifa VIOLENTLY Disrupting White Supremacists!!!!! keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #5
The only Drumpf/Trump family members serving in Normandy would have been on the cliffs looking down. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #6
I lost 2 uncles in WWII. We must stop the fascists once again. Vote Biden 2024. sinkingfeeling Dec 2023 #8
Congratulations on 50,000 posts ! KS Toronado Dec 2023 #10
I had a few, both sides were large families ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #21
Dorie Miller's Wikipedia page nuxvomica Dec 2023 #9
I deliberately showed his Toon twice for a reason. KS Toronado Dec 2023 #11
It's a great story that needs repeating nuxvomica Dec 2023 #14
He's getting a Ford nuclear carrier named after him. ArkansasDemocrat1 Dec 2023 #18
Thank you for this remembrance. planetc Dec 2023 #12
Thank you kimbutgar Dec 2023 #13
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but . . . . Haggis 4 Breakfast Dec 2023 #15
I just checked 4 of my calendars BigmanPigman Dec 2023 #22
My ANCESTORS came from Miyazaki JAPAN.... YoshidaYui Dec 2023 #16
Thank you for these GREAT Pearl Harbour cartoons LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #17
My father was a chaplain in the war and mom was with Red Cross. His work really increased after FailureToCommunicate Dec 2023 #19
I am anything but a military type person.... bahboo Dec 2023 #20
K&R! Thank you so much for remembering! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2023 #23
Duplicate post. n/t Rhiannon12866 Dec 2023 #24
Kicktoons for Pearl Harbor... Hekate Dec 2023 #25
He was being pretty facetious when he inked this one KS Toronado Jan 2024 #26

KS Toronado

(19,506 posts)
4. I hear ya
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 11:15 AM
Dec 2023

Had my dad and 5 uncles who survived the war, one after being shot down over the Ploesti
oil refineries and spent over a year in a concentration camp.

keithbvadu2

(39,949 posts)
5. Photograph Emerges of Antifa VIOLENTLY Disrupting White Supremacists!!!!!
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 11:34 AM
Dec 2023

Photograph Emerges of Antifa VIOLENTLY Disrupting White Supremacists!!!!!

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
21. I had a few, both sides were large families
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:36 PM
Dec 2023

Of the ones who fought, a lot had alcohol dependency (self medicating?) One had authentic PTSD.

nuxvomica

(12,855 posts)
9. Dorie Miller's Wikipedia page
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:43 PM
Dec 2023
Doris Miller (October 12, 1919 – November 24, 1943) was an American Naval cook who was the first Black recipient of the Navy Cross and a nominee for the Medal of Honor. As a mess attendant second class in the United States Navy, Miller helped carry wounded sailors to safety during the attack on Pearl Harbor. He then manned an anti-aircraft gun and, despite no prior training in gunnery, shot down between four and six enemy planes.

Miller received the Navy Cross from Admiral Chester Nimitz on May 27, 1942, but many sailors and naval officers believed that Miller's heroism deserved a Medal of Honor. Miller was nominated for a Medal of Honor by a congressman from Michigan and a Senator from New York, and the Black press enthusiastically campaigned for Miller to receive this decoration. However, Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox—who opposed Black sailors serving the United States in any combat role—recommended against Miller receiving the Medal of Honor. Indeed, not a single Black sailor, soldier, or marine was awarded the Medal of Honor between 1941 and 1945, and in 1996 Vernon J. Baker was the only Black veteran of World War II to be awarded this decoration while yet alive.

In June 1943, Miller was promoted to Cook Petty Officer, Third Class. In November 1943, Miller was killed in action when his ship, the escort carrier Liscome Bay, was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine during the Battle of Makin in the Gilbert Islands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Miller

nuxvomica

(12,855 posts)
14. It's a great story that needs repeating
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:03 PM
Dec 2023

Makes me proud (that he was a fellow American) and angry (that he was so shabbily treated). Any true act of heroism is always non-transactional so the hero never expects an award no matter how many are due. It is the rest of us that need him to be recognized; it is our loss that he wasn't.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
18. He's getting a Ford nuclear carrier named after him.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:32 PM
Dec 2023

No one other than a politician or former USN has had that honor. Not bad, Dorie. Not bad.

kimbutgar

(23,194 posts)
13. Thank you
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 02:51 PM
Dec 2023

I was in Pearl Harbor in late September this year and it was so sombering. I had been there several times before but this time because of all the divisions in our country and the world it was even more sad. They had built a new museum since I had been there and saw some of these pictures I had never seen before. A couple of your pics I also had never seen before.

Thank you.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,456 posts)
15. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but . . . .
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:26 PM
Dec 2023

Every year, I order about 5-6 wall calendars for rooms around the house. I even buy some as gifts. The last few years, the calendars I have ordered, have increasingly left off marking December 7th as Pearl Harbor Day. This year, only ONE calendar had the day noted. I am planning on contacting each of the companies and informing them that this is offensive and unacceptable to this old Sailor. As long as there is a U. S. Navy, this observance MUST never be forgotten. There's a reason it's called "a day of infamy."

The decline in education, especially of unvarnished American history, in this country is disturbing. Those that continue to promote such lapses do us no favors. Those that think banning books because they make some people uncomfortable are missing the bigger picture.

BigmanPigman

(52,216 posts)
22. I just checked 4 of my calendars
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 09:39 PM
Dec 2023

and only the one from World Wildlife Fund has the date remembered.

When I taught 1st graders I gave my class a mini-lesson on Pearl Harbor each Dec 7th. The kids loved maps and visuals. It wasn't in the curriculum but I taught about it anyway. I think you need to teach kids about history and civics at a young age. They can comprehend it if you teach it at their grade level.

YoshidaYui

(42,687 posts)
16. My ANCESTORS came from Miyazaki JAPAN....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 04:54 PM
Dec 2023

and moved to HAWAII, SO MY family was on the island by the time the Japanese Empire made its attack. After which many Japanese AMERICANS were placed in interment camps. My family never went, because we were HALF HAWAIIAN natives. The US not only leased Hawaii from the Hawaiians they weren't about putting half Japanese Hawaiians in interment camp. so there for my family was lucky not to be interned.

My immediate family left Hawaii and I was born in San Francisco, and i have to tell all of you, I STILL CRINGE when SEE THE WORD " JAP" . WORLD WAR II WAS not my war. I was born way after that, but the word still stings when I see it. I know at the time it seemed like the right thing to do, was hate the DAMN JAPS for attacking pearl harbor, but times have changed. THE WAR is long over and people have moved on.

but prejudice is still out there and being called a "Jap" STILL stings... knowing where it came from, doesn't make it feel any better

FailureToCommunicate

(14,313 posts)
19. My father was a chaplain in the war and mom was with Red Cross. His work really increased after
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:34 PM
Dec 2023

the war, as soldiers returned with many wounds visible, and hidden, and they tried to fit back into society. (As depicted in the classic film "The Best Years of Our Lives".)

Thank you for the powerful collection of images.

-FTC

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
20. I am anything but a military type person....
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:36 PM
Dec 2023

but Pearl Harbor always gets to me. Plan on seeing the USS Arizona Memorial some day....

Rhiannon12866

(221,375 posts)
23. K&R! Thank you so much for remembering!
Fri Dec 8, 2023, 12:57 AM
Dec 2023

Those patriots we lost on that "Day of Infamy" must never be forgotten...

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