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douglas9

(4,521 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 06:56 AM Saturday

Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders

The DOJ argued in court that Indigenous people don’t have birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment, so neither should children of noncitizens born in the US

As U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement intensifies its efforts to apprehend and deport undocumented immigrants throughout the country, concern is rising among Indigenous communities residing in urban areas about reports of Indigenous people being detained in the Valley.

Since President Donald Trump issued his executive order for an increase in ICE raids, Navajo tribal leaders have received alarming reports that their tribal members are being detained, heightening uncertainties over the implications these actions have for their communities and the safety of their people.

“We now know that Navajo people and enrolled members of other tribes are being detained in Phoenix and other cities by ICE,” Navajo Nation Council Speaker Crystalyne Curley said during a committee meeting on Thursday. “The reports that we have received indicate that we need to coordinate an operation or some type of response to help our enrolled tribal members here on the Navajo Nation.”

On Thursday, Navajo tribal leaders reported that they have received calls and text messages from Navajo people living in urban areas who have been stopped, questioned or detained by ICE. Those reports sparked outrage among Navajo Nation Council members and prompted a detailed discussion of the topic during a Naabik’íyáti’ Committee meeting.


https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-being-detained-in-immigration-sweeps-sparks-concern-from-tribal-leaders/

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Reports of Navajo people being detained in immigration sweeps sparks concern from tribal leaders (Original Post) douglas9 Saturday OP
This can't be?.............. Lovie777 Saturday #1
words fail me. nt KarenS Saturday #2
Extremely disturbing and infuriating Mike 03 Saturday #3
Only white Christian males will be citizens. Irish_Dem Saturday #4
I am a white male, born in N.J. I was on a Greyhound bus at Indio, California, and asked for my immigration papers. 3Hotdogs Saturday #10
We will have to carry our DNA profile with us at all times. Irish_Dem Saturday #11
Wasn't there a story here reporting that Trump made gains in getting tribal votes? The old FAFO would apply if true. dem4decades Saturday #5
Skewed poll. Natives voted Dem. Clouds Passing Saturday #27
Unconstitutional abuse of power and illegal? Disgusting in any case Evolve Dammit Saturday #6
Racial profiling. sop Saturday #7
Native Americans ARE recognized as American citizens. no_hypocrisy Saturday #8
Where? robleb Saturday #12
Exactly. They're already restricted to small areas of land. no_hypocrisy Saturday #13
And where would Dr. T Saturday #9
Exactly HarryM Saturday #15
Wounded Knee comes to mind. orangecrush Saturday #14
Little Big Horn mokeyz Saturday #24
The malicious abuse of Original Americans... GiqueCee Saturday #16
Everyone needs to be able to show their papers. mtngirl47 Saturday #17
When will our government bronxiteforever Saturday #18
Unless your ancestors look like this... FailureToCommunicate Saturday #19
Don't know about you, but I remember what those people tried to do to John Wayne on his documentary, Stagecoach. 3Hotdogs Saturday #28
The ineptitude of tRump's DOJ on display -- 70sEraVet Saturday #20
Native Americans are Americans end of story Botany Saturday #21
To which country do they deport them? The one they originated from? A circular process? surfered Saturday #22
Talk about setting the clock back 150 years. DFW Saturday #23
Where would Biglinda 52 Saturday #25
No matter how bad I think it could be, PatSeg Saturday #26
Sheer insanity Bayard Saturday #29
Send 'em back where they came from! ThoughtCriminal Saturday #30
This Is Illegal Daleuhlmann Saturday #31
8 USC 1401 struggle4progress Saturday #32
Racists make no distinctions. They mistake Native Americans for Hispanics, and Sikhs for Muslims. Martin68 Sunday #33
where are they going to fly them? 4catsmom Sunday #34

Mike 03

(17,930 posts)
3. Extremely disturbing and infuriating
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:08 AM
Saturday

Michelangelo Signorile discussed this yesterday on his program. He discussed the ineptitude of the ICE agents who apparently had little to no experience evaluating the IDs of Native Americans, and he pointed out that the IDs vary from tribe to tribe. What a clusterf*ck.

Really heartened to see a post about this topic on DU. I hope we can get updates and follow this as these raids unfold.

Irish_Dem

(62,147 posts)
4. Only white Christian males will be citizens.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:19 AM
Saturday

The rest of us will not be citizens or considered human.

3Hotdogs

(13,767 posts)
10. I am a white male, born in N.J. I was on a Greyhound bus at Indio, California, and asked for my immigration papers.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:15 AM
Saturday

I was Christian at that time. BUT IT WAS STILL SCARY. All I had, was a N.J. driver's license.

My Italian genes caused the mixup? Or maybe it was my 15% Aryan genes, as pointed out by 23 + me.

Irish_Dem

(62,147 posts)
11. We will have to carry our DNA profile with us at all times.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:22 AM
Saturday

Along with our passport, birth certificate, driver's license, voter's registration, etc.

And women will have to be ready for a genital check before they enter a restroom.

dem4decades

(12,143 posts)
5. Wasn't there a story here reporting that Trump made gains in getting tribal votes? The old FAFO would apply if true.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:20 AM
Saturday

no_hypocrisy

(49,759 posts)
8. Native Americans ARE recognized as American citizens.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:28 AM
Saturday

Treaties.
They aren't "aliens".
They can vote.
They can't be deported as "undocumented immigrants".
Their ancestors preceded the European settlors.

Another question:
Will TSF order research on all our ancestors who immigrated to the U.S., but didn't "naturalize" and then claim WE'RE unlawfully residing in the U.S.?

Dr. T

(119 posts)
9. And where would
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:03 AM
Saturday

ICE deport Native Americans to? Their country of origin is here. I suppose the point is to harass and terrorize.

HarryM

(193 posts)
15. Exactly
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:28 AM
Saturday

These bass turds need to be deposed. Forget impeachment in 2 years. When are people gonna wake the hell up and REVOLT!

GiqueCee

(1,618 posts)
16. The malicious abuse of Original Americans...
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:29 AM
Saturday

... is never ending, but the evil monster defiling the Oval Office – for now – has upped the ante exponentially. He and his SS goons are wiping the asses with the Constitution. There have to be consequences. Cowardly courts and sniveling legislators have given him a pass far too often.

3Hotdogs

(13,767 posts)
28. Don't know about you, but I remember what those people tried to do to John Wayne on his documentary, Stagecoach.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 10:58 AM
Saturday

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Yes Louise, it's sarcasm.

70sEraVet

(4,307 posts)
20. The ineptitude of tRump's DOJ on display --
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:55 AM
Saturday
“The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weaker than its connection with members of Indian tribes,” DOJ argued in a filing. “If the latter link is insufficient for birthright citizenship, the former certainly is,” the Trump administration argued.”

The DOJ cited an 1884 U.S. Supreme Court case, Elk v. Wilkins, in which the high court decided that “because members of Indian tribes owe ‘immediate allegiance’ to their tribes, they are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States and are not constitutionally entitled to Citizenship.”

But the DOJ ignored congressional action, the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, that explicitly gave Indigenous people U.S. birthright citizenship and effectively ended the rejection of citizenship that the Supreme Court had upheld four decades earlier.


(same article)

Their argument must have pissed the judge off, royally.

surfered

(4,517 posts)
22. To which country do they deport them? The one they originated from? A circular process?
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:04 AM
Saturday

Insane!

DFW

(57,067 posts)
23. Talk about setting the clock back 150 years.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:21 AM
Saturday

If Native American tribe members use firearms on European-Americans trying to kidnap them illegally, isn’t that the classic definition of self-defense?

PatSeg

(49,789 posts)
26. No matter how bad I think it could be,
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 09:46 AM
Saturday

somehow he manages to exceed my every expectation. I am horrified every day.

Bayard

(24,165 posts)
29. Sheer insanity
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 12:28 PM
Saturday

Do they think Indigenous people are Mexicans because they have black hair and darker skin?

I have a tshirt with a picture of Geronimo on it saying--"Show Me Your Papers." trump's grandfather was an immigrant, so was his wife, and his partner in crime, The Muskrat. Unless you are Indigenous, your ancestry is immigrant. I would say the hypocrisy and racism is astounding, but nothing is anymore.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,406 posts)
30. Send 'em back where they came from!
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:27 PM
Saturday

"Then we kicked them off there. I guess we’re gonna send ‘em back where they came from. Yeah, we bought the Bering Strait theory. “Put the Welfare people to work filling in the Bering Strait and charge them Indians a buck a head to send ‘em home. It’s a good sound business solution.” - George Carlin

Daleuhlmann

(62 posts)
31. This Is Illegal
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 07:22 PM
Saturday

How can this action possibly be legal? Trump's deportations specifically exclude Native Americans.

struggle4progress

(120,949 posts)
32. 8 USC 1401
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 08:22 PM
Saturday

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth ...

(b)a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

Martin68

(24,870 posts)
33. Racists make no distinctions. They mistake Native Americans for Hispanics, and Sikhs for Muslims.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 12:41 PM
Sunday

"Shoot first an d let God sort it out later" is their motto.

4catsmom

(411 posts)
34. where are they going to fly them?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 05:01 PM
Sunday

Manhattan? Please tell me that ICE isn't this stupid, though every indication is otherwise

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