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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:20 AM Nov 2016

Civil divide=Civil, racial, class War

America is more divided by race, class, gender and economic disparities like at no time in the last 60 years, excluding the murder and chaos that ensued with 'Americans' demanding that they be recognized and treated as Americans regardless of color.

Now in 2016 we have a racist, sexist demogogue wanting to inhabit 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as our POTUS. He has gotten more guns out the white male closet than Obama did and that was until HRC the largest fear of the racist white male.

Is this orange skinned 21st fuhrer with hate as his driving political force going to cause a 2nd civil war, whether he wins or loses?

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Civil divide=Civil, racial, class War (Original Post) heaven05 Nov 2016 OP
Nope. Trump isn't going to cause anything, and neither are his followers. tonyt53 Nov 2016 #1
Who knows, his racist ass followers know they .. Basement Beat Nov 2016 #2
They are mostly cowards. brer cat Nov 2016 #3
I think of Trump as an American Boulanger Ellen Forradalom Nov 2016 #4
as I hope also heaven05 Nov 2016 #9
man, was I wrong heaven05 Nov 2016 #10
I personally believe they are cowards. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #7
actually I just read a line heaven05 Nov 2016 #8
Yes heaven, exactly this. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #10

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
2. Who knows, his racist ass followers know they ..
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:39 AM
Nov 2016

kill whomever (in self defense) and now take over federal land and get acquitted. They gonna try some stupid shit but doubt a war would break out.

brer cat

(26,131 posts)
3. They are mostly cowards.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:55 AM
Nov 2016

However, I worry that some would take their anger out on minorities that they encounter in remote places, and I fear for Black churches and other institutions that they can hit under the cover of darkness. It is going to be a fearful time for sure.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,177 posts)
4. I think of Trump as an American Boulanger
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 11:58 AM
Nov 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Ernest_Boulanger

Gen. Boulanger was the figurehead of a powerful reactionary movement during France's III Republic. The movement faded away because its leader was weak:

Despite his charisma, [General Boulanger] lacked coolness, consistency, and decisiveness; he was a mediocre leader who lacked vision and courage. He was never able to unite the disparate elements, ranging from the far left to the far right, that formed the base of his support. He was able, however, to frighten Republicans and force them to reorganize and strengthen their solidarity in opposition to him.


Republicans in this context are defenders of the French 3rd Republic.

I don't see Trump having the focus, political smarts or organizational acumen to keep his movement alive. I hope I am right.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. as I hope also
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 08:34 PM
Nov 2016

Tuesday will push these "outliers" back into their dark corners again. And hopefully trumps defeat will be so large that they will understand that they are not on the side of right and become thinkers again instead of followers of a madman.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. man, was I wrong
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 08:52 PM
Nov 2016

now in danger of losing Social Security, Medicare and possibly my life because my skin is brown. Also the brownshirts of the trumpfuhrer are out in force snatching off hijabs, attacking defenseless AA women, hitting a transexual woman with axes in Pennsylvania, using the nigger word openly and happily. White men, women and boys walking with a swagger knowing they are in the cat bird seat and have carte blanche to treat 'others' as they please. Shame amerikkka!!!!!!!!!! Pre WW3 amerika, just like pre WW2 germany.

sheshe2

(87,193 posts)
5. I personally believe they are cowards.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:39 PM
Nov 2016

Anyone that feels the need to own 200+ guns, grenades and assault rifles to protect themselves from made up fears is a sniveling coward in my book. Guns don't make you a man, it is the goodness in ones heart that can shape you. Just look at Obama, he has far more strength and power in his spoken word than any gun toting maniac ever will. No, I don't believe we will see a Civil War, I think they are far to lazy for that.

That said, yes there will be violence directed at minorities. I fear for us all, yet will not let that consume me.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. actually I just read a line
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 08:30 PM
Nov 2016

from a statement by a religious person and he said : "America is every race rolled into one". The decent ones respect and nurture the goodness in that fact. The others use that fact to try to divide us into camps. Well Tuesday will prove that America has always had greatness and will continue growing on that path.

sheshe2

(87,193 posts)
10. Yes heaven, exactly this.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:18 PM
Nov 2016
"America is every race rolled into one". The decent ones respect and nurture the goodness in that fact. The others use that fact to try to divide us into camps. Well Tuesday will prove that America has always had greatness and will continue growing on that path.


"the decent ones respect and nurture the goodness"

Thank you~
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