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Related: About this forumMan arrested for trying to buy guns with fake ID at gun show, Mesa police say
Man arrested for trying to buy guns with fake ID at gun show, Mesa police say
A man was arrested for attempting to buy firearms at a gun show in Mesa with fake identification, police say.
On Sunday, Sept. 24, court documents say that 22-year-old Nathaniel Mead was at the Crossroads of the West Gun Show at the Mesa Convention Center, where he tried to buy two guns with a fake ID. Uniformed detectives working the convention were informed about Mead around 1:45 p.m. by a vendor. The employees told detectives that Mead had used a different ID on prior occasions to buy firearms, documents say.
Detectives confronted him, and they say he presented an Arizona drivers license with the name James Davidson. They ran a records check with the MVD and did not find anyone with that name matching the drivers license number on the card. However, the number did return a completely different name and birthdate. He was arrested on the spot, and detectives told him that providing a fake name to them was against the law.
He confessed his name was Nathaniel Mead, and an ID with that name was found on him. However, there was nothing else to verify the ID was real. Witnesses who informed detectives also provided them with an ATF form Mead filled out with a false name, which is also against the law, documents say. Detectives found several other state IDs Mead had; at least three were determined to be fake.
https://www.azfamily.com/2023/09/27/man-arrested-trying-buy-guns-with-fake-id-gun-show-mesa-police-say/
A man was arrested for attempting to buy firearms at a gun show in Mesa with fake identification, police say.
On Sunday, Sept. 24, court documents say that 22-year-old Nathaniel Mead was at the Crossroads of the West Gun Show at the Mesa Convention Center, where he tried to buy two guns with a fake ID. Uniformed detectives working the convention were informed about Mead around 1:45 p.m. by a vendor. The employees told detectives that Mead had used a different ID on prior occasions to buy firearms, documents say.
Detectives confronted him, and they say he presented an Arizona drivers license with the name James Davidson. They ran a records check with the MVD and did not find anyone with that name matching the drivers license number on the card. However, the number did return a completely different name and birthdate. He was arrested on the spot, and detectives told him that providing a fake name to them was against the law.
He confessed his name was Nathaniel Mead, and an ID with that name was found on him. However, there was nothing else to verify the ID was real. Witnesses who informed detectives also provided them with an ATF form Mead filled out with a false name, which is also against the law, documents say. Detectives found several other state IDs Mead had; at least three were determined to be fake.
Apparently not all gun shows are cash and carry, no questions, no background check needed.
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Man arrested for trying to buy guns with fake ID at gun show, Mesa police say (Original Post)
sarisataka
Sep 2023
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getagrip_already
(17,396 posts)1. Didn't biden just close that loophole?
I remember seeing something about that. Don't recall exactly since I don't buy nugs at shows......
sarisataka
(20,898 posts)2. I believe his change
Expanded the definition of who is in the business of selling firearms, thus needing to have an FFL.
He did not, and cannot, change the requirement that an FFL holder must conduct a background check and a private seller is not able to conduct a background check.
The Mouth
(3,274 posts)3. I might be about as extreme a 'gun nut' as anyone on DU
but
A- throw the fucking book at him
B- make it so that *anyone* can run an appropriate background check on anyone buying a firearm, anywhere.
beemerphill
(508 posts)4. Idiot
I have been to a lot of gun shows over the years and have never seen a dealer who would risk his livelihood and his freedom for a sale under the counter. They have too much to lose.