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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,789 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 04:24 PM Nov 2018

SCOTUS grants cert in first major religion clause case in the Kavanaugh era.

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Very interesting . . . SCOTUS grants cert in first major religion clause case in the Kavanaugh era. The issue is the constitutionality of a public, cross-shaped war memorial. Here's how the cert petition framed the issue:


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SCOTUS grants cert in first major religion clause case in the Kavanaugh era. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 OP
"merely" CurtEastPoint Nov 2018 #1
Is this worth fighting over? Kablooie Nov 2018 #2
Symbol of Death gunsmoker Jan 2019 #4
or... who paid for the memorial. If not the government then it is under freedom of religion. demigoddess Nov 2018 #3

Kablooie

(18,757 posts)
2. Is this worth fighting over?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 05:00 PM
Nov 2018

The cross symbol is commonly used to represent a tombstone in the west.
Sure it originally came from Christianity but it seems to me it's moved beyond that over the years to have a generic meaning of death as well. Also it was erected shortly after the war so the monument has historical value.

A new monument that is made in the shape of a cross in defiance of current standards might be objectionable but I don't see the value of trying to rejigger the past to fit modern standards.

(With exceptions of course such as racist iconography that demeans people.)

gunsmoker

(15 posts)
4. Symbol of Death
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jan 2019

Quote: “Sure, it originally came from Christianity but it seems to me it's moved beyond that over the years to have a generic meaning of death as well.”

Yep. Consider all the people who put a cross-shaped grave marker over their PETS buried in the back yard.

93 years ago, I don’t think everyone in that town would have agreed that only Christians died fighting the Great War. Even then, the cross was a symbol of death regardless of the faith of the fallen.

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