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HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:16 AM Jan 2012

Overachievers can be a problem too.

My youngest (16, a junior) just found out she was 19th out of 190 in her class. She's been on a steady rise and intends to shoot for 1st. Just why is that a source of stress for me? I'm fucking 48. You think I'd be able to handle that by now.

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Overachievers can be a problem too. (Original Post) HopeHoops Jan 2012 OP
ha ha. i dont put a lot of stock in that. seabeyond Jan 2012 #1
They've all pushed themselves. We've always been laid back about it. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #2
that is cute. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #3
That's awesome. HappyMe Jan 2012 #5
Oh, they're quite opinionated about everything. I can't IMAGINE where they got that. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #6
Don't stress about it, kids read that sort of thing. Ruby Reason Jan 2012 #4
Occupy the DOE ChalkFace Jan 2012 #7
Student Pressumab May 2017 #8
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. ha ha. i dont put a lot of stock in that.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jan 2012

not emotionally invested in that. i dont know why. i tell the kids, you will get wht effort you put in, whatever that is. if you work hard, you get to feel good. if you didnt work hard, then you got what you should. it is all on my kids. i dont particpate in it. cheer. but that is about it.

but yea.... your daughter.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
2. They've all pushed themselves. We've always been laid back about it.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jan 2012

In the long run, nobody gives a shit about high school. But when you're IN high school, that's all they push - WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK, etc.

It's a stupid system, but that's what we've got. All three have been excellent students. I'm proud of them for that but we didn't push them that way - they pushed themselves. We've got pig-headedness (sp?) on both sides. And don't fuck with my wife. She'll take on anybody. She learned that from her dad.

Ruby Reason

(242 posts)
4. Don't stress about it, kids read that sort of thing.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jan 2012

Just let her know you are proud of her goal, even if she doesn't achieve it. Then let her do the rest.

ChalkFace

(5 posts)
7. Occupy the DOE
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jan 2012

To whom it may concern:

On March 30th to April 2nd, 2012, the grassroots education reform organization United Opt Out National (http://unitedoptout.com) will be holding an event in Washington, DC called Occupy the DOE. As a collection of teacher educators, K-12 teachers, and parents from around the country, we ask for your participation and support.

For more than a decade, the reform narrative in education has been dominated by test-based accountability, competition, and punishment. Large foundations and other corporate entities have propagated market-based principles like school choice, pay-for-performance, and for-profit management of schools. Consequently, large amounts of private wealth go towards influencing legislators and other public officials to dismantle public education, ultimately in favor of a private system that can be run for profit.

The key lever is the vaunted score on high-stakes state standardized tests, used to justify a slew of controversial decisions. As a result of ten years of this kind of reform, we are experiencing schools just as segregated by race and social class as they were in the 1950s. We in the United States are also experiencing a teaching profession that is constantly undermined and under attack. The culture of punishment and competition created under No Child Left Behind and now Race to the Top has proven to be a massive failure. Yet, private entities still push for test-based accountability measures despite near-universal opposition from educators and the pile of evidence against it.

In order to grind this failed reform climate to a screeching halt, we at United Opt Out National feel that an ultimate act of civil disobedience is all that we have left. We therefore call upon educators, leaders, parents, and students across our vast public education system to withhold the data by opting out of their state’s standardized tests. If policy-makers, legislators, and other officials cannot make responsible decisions based on quantitative data, and if they refuse to appreciate evidence to the contrary, then the only arrow left in our quiver is to simply refuse to hand over the data.

We at United Opt Out National certainly understand the potential consequences of refusing state standardized tests. We appreciate the reluctance of teachers and administrators to engage in an opt-out measure. Various state departments of education and their officials falsely claim that parents do not have the legal right to opt-out, that their refusal to concede to the tests will unfairly punish their children and their schools. While officials might be able to fire teachers, they cannot fire parents. If school systems wish to continue their obsession with test scores, then they must also be prepared to offer alternatives for the growing wave of parents who see test preparation violating their consciences and robbing their children of meaningful educational experiences.

Our Occupy the DOE event will include numerous teach-ins, social events, and actions in protest against test-based and corporate driven education reforms. In preservation of a free and equitable public education, and to support a new direction in education reform, we ask that you strongly consider participating in our event. If you would like any other information, feel free to contact any one of our administrators through our site at http://unitedoptout.com, which provides direct links to our myriad social media accounts, endorsements, readings, and other documentation.

Thank you for your consideration,

United Opt Out National
http://unitedoptout.com

Pressumab

(7 posts)
8. Student
Mon May 1, 2017, 01:55 AM
May 2017

It is better to have a kid who is striving hard in academic rather that have one that doesn't care everything and going parties and be with people could harm someone's lives.

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