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Related: About this forumTrump's Lies About Abortion in America Were Particularly Appalling
Trumps Lies About Abortion in America Were Particularly Appalling
PUBLISHED 6/28/2024 by Julianne McShane
He falsely claimed that all legal scholars wanted Roe overturned, and that Democrats intend to execute newborns.
Donald Trump at the first presidential debate at CNN Studios in Atlanta on June 27, 2024. (Kyle Mazza / Anadolu via Getty Images)
(Backpfeifengesicht!!!)
This analysis was originally published by Mother Jones.
Former President Donald Trump did manage to say one accurate thing about abortion at Thursday nights CNN presidential debate: Hes responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade. I put three great Supreme Court justices on the Court, Trump said, and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states. This isnt the first time Trump has boasted about yanking the constitutional right to abortion from Americans. As Ive written, he previously has bragged about appointing three of the five Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe. But otherwise, Trump lied constantly about the realities of abortion in the U.S. during Thursdays debate. For example, Trump insisted that all legal scholars wanted Roe v. Wade overturned.
As reproductive rights scholar and NYU Law Professor Melissa Murray said when Mother Jones asked her for comment: Yeah, thats a lie.
In fact, several legal scholars have noted the overturning of Roe undermines the legitimacy of the court given the blatant disregard for precedent, or stare decisis, that the conservative justices showed in issuing the Dobbs decision. Legal scholars also filed several amicus briefs in the Dobbs case urging the Court not to overturn Roe.
Trump also falsely claimed that the Supreme Court just approved the abortion pill, referring to the recent case FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, brought by anti-abortion extremists, which sought to roll back some rule changes by the FDA that made mifepristone, the first of two pills used in a medication abortion, easier to access. In fact, as my colleague Nina Martin wrote, the Court did not approve the pill, but instead ruled that the plaintiffs did not have standing to bring the case, since it was based on several hypotheticals:
The Alliance [Defending Freedom, a right-wing religious law firm] contended that a patient might be one of the rare people for whom the abortion pill didnt work as intended, that she might then seek emergency care at a hospital, where she might encounter a provider who might belong to one of the anti-abortion groups in the lawsuit, who might be put in the position of having to perform an emergency procedure to remove the fetus.
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Perhaps most egregiouslyand preposterouslyTrump insisted that Democrats will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth, after birth. Lets break that down. First, federal data shows more than 90 percent of abortions take place in the first trimester. Research has shown that abortions in the third trimester are extremely rareconstituting only one percent of abortionsand they typically only occur when there are major medical concerns regarding the health of the mother or the fetus, or as KFF states, barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion. And regarding his claim that Democrats or physicians kill newborns, that procedure is already outlawed at the federal level. So Trump spewed a lot of lies about abortion tonight. But, as Ive written, the facts about what hes responsible for, thanks to the overturning of Roeyoung victims of rape or incest being forced to give birth or travel across state lines to access abortion, and women facing life-threatening pregnancy complications due to inability to access abortion, just to name a feware simple facts, far away from political posturing.
https://msmagazine.com/2024/06/28/trump-debate-abortion-lies/
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Trump's Lies About Abortion in America Were Particularly Appalling (Original Post)
niyad
Jun 2024
OP
See my post re. "The Pre-People", a SF story that may have started all this ....
eppur_se_muova
Jun 2024
#2
kimbutgar
(23,165 posts)1. Evertime I hear abortion 3 days after birth I think WTF
Killing a baby after its born is infanticide and anyone who had had a baby knows it is not possible to have abortion after birth! Special kind of stupid these MAGAloon christofacists.
eppur_se_muova
(37,347 posts)2. See my post re. "The Pre-People", a SF story that may have started all this ....
kimbutgar
(23,165 posts)3. That is an insane premise !
Its friggin sci fi sorry that has no truth. Any woman who has given birth would a good laugh!
Thank you for sharing the backstory. Im bookmarking your link!
niyad
(119,536 posts)5. But it is so much easier to pretend, to make up bs to fit their sadistic
little imaginings.
ShazzieB
(18,524 posts)4. Trump is trying really hard to shift the blame for what he now knows was a very unpopular decision! 😆
He was more than happy to take credit for Roe being struck down at first, but now that he realizes a lot of people are extremely unhappy about it, he is trying to claim it was what "all legal scholars" wanted.
Because you see, it isn't really his fault; it's the fault of all those legal scholars! Nice try, nimrod!