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JudyM

(29,509 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 08:16 PM Nov 2020

New large study: suggests 7-8 hours of good sleep significantly lowers risk of heart failure

Adults with the healthiest sleep patterns had a 42% lower risk of heart failure regardless of other risk factors compared to adults with unhealthy sleep patterns, according to new research published today in the American Heart Association's flagship journal Circulation. Healthy sleep patterns are rising in the morning, sleeping 7-8 hours a day and having no frequent insomnia, snoring or excessive daytime sleepiness.
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This observational study examined the relationship between healthy sleep patterns and heart failure and included data on 408,802 UK Biobank participants, ages 37 to 73 at the time of recruitment (2006-2010). Incidence of heart failure was collected until April 1, 2019. Researchers recorded 5,221 cases of heart failure during a median follow-up of 10 years.
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After adjusting for diabetes, hypertension, medication use, genetic variations and other covariates, participants with the healthiest sleep pattern had a 42% reduction in the risk of heart failure compared to people with an unhealthy sleep pattern.

They also found the risk of heart failure was independently associated and:

8% lower in early risers;
12% lower in those who slept 7 to 8 hours daily;
17% lower in those who did not have frequent insomnia; and
34% lower in those reporting no daytime sleepiness.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201116075728.htm

This was an approx 10 year prospective study of over 400,000 people aged 37-73.
Plus in other studies, lack of sleep is associated with dementia risk as well. That’s it, I’m changing my ways!
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New large study: suggests 7-8 hours of good sleep significantly lowers risk of heart failure (Original Post) JudyM Nov 2020 OP
I rec'd it because I want to find out what this sleep thing is people talk about LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #1
Same here Rorey Nov 2020 #3
Ha! Yep, me too. I'm delighted when I squeeze in 6 hours, so rare. JudyM Nov 2020 #5
I'm doomed Rorey Nov 2020 #2
"Healthy sleep patterns...sleeping 7-8 hours a day." I do that. 7-8 hours a day. Then 7-8 at night. Doodley Nov 2020 #4
Since I got a 3" foam pad, flannel sheets, and an electric blanket..... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #6
I finally got the electric blanket last year... BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #9
I'm thinking 3" foam, flannel sheets, and a "Biddeford" Blanket will make everyone happier! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #10
I just looked, that IS the brand Santa brought to me last year. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #11
My Grandmother worked at the Biddeford Mills that produced Pepperall Blankets. It was on Pepperll I OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #12
please find a replacement for little dog Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #13
7-8 hours a day dweller Nov 2020 #7
Thank you. I will read it again after I've had some sleep (note: this article is truly interesting) Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #8
Too many people just don't understand how important it is PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #14
Hadn't read that about vaccine effectiveness before, good to know. JudyM Nov 2020 #15
And not just in rodents. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #17
Right, nurses too. So sad. JudyM Nov 2020 #18
I was an airline ticket agent at National Airport in Washington, DC, for ten years. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #19
I hear ya. It ought to be studied as a public health hazard, and get press. But... doctor-worship. JudyM Nov 2020 #20
Yeah, doctor worship. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #21
I wish my 70 yr old bladder could read . . . . Worried2020 Nov 2020 #16
This 74-year-old man solved his sleeping issues....... Elwood P Dowd Dec 2020 #22

Doodley

(10,219 posts)
4. "Healthy sleep patterns...sleeping 7-8 hours a day." I do that. 7-8 hours a day. Then 7-8 at night.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 08:22 PM
Nov 2020

BigmanPigman

(52,208 posts)
9. I finally got the electric blanket last year...
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:06 PM
Nov 2020

added to the flannel sheets and 3" foam and it is so warm and snugly I never want to get out of bed when it is cold. My very fluffy, down comforter is the cherry on top. I wish my little dog were still with me since snuggling with her tiny, soft, warm body can't be replaced.

I still have insomnia though....ear plugs, sleep mask, etc. I smoke Indica before bed and 4 hours later when I am awake again. It helps a lot.

BigmanPigman

(52,208 posts)
11. I just looked, that IS the brand Santa brought to me last year.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:17 PM
Nov 2020

I have it on my feet right now...I am always freezing when it is below 70° outside.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,228 posts)
12. My Grandmother worked at the Biddeford Mills that produced Pepperall Blankets. It was on Pepperll I
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:23 PM
Nov 2020

part of my life.

Grasswire2

(13,693 posts)
13. please find a replacement for little dog
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 10:55 PM
Nov 2020

So many need a loving home.

My kitty is a snuggler. Sometimes she even wants to sleep inside my pillow case!

dweller

(24,888 posts)
7. 7-8 hours a day
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:45 PM
Nov 2020

is this including naps ?
Is it cumulative sleep hrs?
Counting naps I’m maybe 8+

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Bernardo de La Paz

(50,824 posts)
8. Thank you. I will read it again after I've had some sleep (note: this article is truly interesting)
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:50 PM
Nov 2020

Hmm, can't seem to put emoticon in subject line ( : P = )

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,607 posts)
14. Too many people just don't understand how important it is
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 01:03 AM
Nov 2020

to get enough sleep. There are any number of books out there on the topic.

I read one perhaps a year ago which described some very interesting research about mild sleep deprivation. It turns out, that if you get a flu shot after a night of insufficient sleep, it probably won't be nearly as effective as if you'd gotten 8 hours. Many other similar studies that prove over and over again getting sufficient sleep matteers.

Most of my life I have gotten adequate sleep, and I'm convinced that's perhaps the most important reason I'm as healthy as I am. Yeah, good genetics is probably in there, but getting plenty of sleep strikes me as key.

JudyM

(29,509 posts)
15. Hadn't read that about vaccine effectiveness before, good to know.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 08:51 AM
Nov 2020

More on that for anyone interested:

... short habitual sleep (less than 6 hours per night) is statistically associated in humans with reduced life span, increased vulnerability to viral infection, and reduced antibody titers after vaccination. Short-term sleep deprivation prior to vaccination appears to negatively impact antibody titers after influenza vaccination and, at least in rodents, reduces influenza vaccine efficacy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7030790/

There should be PSAs urging folks to get the vaccine after a good night’s sleep.

Another conclusion from the concept of short habitual sleep compromising immunity, generally, also points to the increased Covid risk imposed on our health care workers by the notorious scheduling that’s endemic in our hospitals, particularly for interns and residents. That insane rite of passage that builds in sleep deprivation, impacting their judgment in life-or-death cases, is apparently also putting them at greater risk of contracting Covid and will likely impair the personal efficacy of their vaccinations.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,607 posts)
17. And not just in rodents.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 01:24 PM
Nov 2020

Studies have been done in humans. I'm pretty sure the book I found that in is Why We Sleep by Matthew P. Walker.

I have been bothered a lot by the fact that nurses these days typically work a 10 or 12 hour shift. And I'm talking scheduled shifts. Either 36 or 40 hours a week in normal times, and of course many of them are working six 12 hour shifts in a row. Even without a pandemic going on, I know I don't want to be treated by a nurse in the 11th hour of his shift, or by a doctor who's been working 36 hours straight. I know one claim about the need for such long hours for interns and residents is that they can follow a patient through. Well, no matter how long you make them work, at some point the shift ends and they go home. And I bet they'd learn a lot more a lot faster if they weren't so constantly sleep deprived.

Tech companies are similar. I once read that the i-phone would probably have come to market a year and a half earlier if the teams working on it had worked normal hours, not the insanity of 100 hour weeks.

I will go back to my conviction that a significant aspect of my annoyingly good health is a lifetime of adequate sleep.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,607 posts)
19. I was an airline ticket agent at National Airport in Washington, DC, for ten years.
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 11:40 PM
Nov 2020

1969-1979. There were lots of times I worked lots of overtime. We didn't always know when we'd finally get off work, and more than once we, the afternoon shift, called up morning shift agents at 3 am to ask them if they'd please come in to work as soon as possible so we could finally go home.

But no one's lives depended on us. Yeah, we might screw up writing a ticket or booking a flight or check a bag to the wrong destination, but no one was actually hurt, or worse yet ever died, because of our mistakes.

In hospitals it's vastly different. I know what it's like to be exhausted and worn out and at the point of not giving a fuck. But I'm not a nurse or any other kind of medical professional. I have a cousin who is a nurse on the east coast. She normally works ER, and truly loves working the ER, but recently she's been assigned a Covid unit. We spoke briefly a few weeks ago, and it was clear she is beyond burned out.

I can't begin to imagine.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,607 posts)
21. Yeah, doctor worship.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:31 AM
Nov 2020

Plus, older doctors did their internships when they actually got sleep during a 36 hour shift. Read the book Intern by Doctor X (Alan E. Nourse) which I read when it first came out in 1965. You will notice a lot about the advances in medicine in the decades since, but you should also notice how he was able to get sleep during those long overnights, unlike interns/residents these days.

And that's important. First that the older doctors do not fully understand what has changed over the years, and second is the entire issue of getting adequate sleep. Hell, I've known since high school that doing an overnighter and cramming for a final made no sense at all, and never did it.

I have been preaching the doctrine of Get Plenty of Sleep for decades now. Yeah, I know all too well that there are times when you will be unavoidably deprived of sleep. Such as when you have a new baby in the house. Such as when you have a job that has you working one night scheduled off at 10pm, only the flights run late and you don't get off until 1am, and still have to be back at the airport at 6am, but those are not every day occurrences. And when you're young, you can do it.

Once again, I believe that my lifelong commitment to getting enough sleep has paid off in my excellent health. I'm 72 years old, and I'm constantly astonished and dismayed at the many health issues that most people my age have. What is wrong with them? I ask myself. I do recognize that different genetics matter, but I'm still inclined to think that getting sufficient sleep is huge.

Worried2020

(444 posts)
16. I wish my 70 yr old bladder could read . . . .
Sun Nov 29, 2020, 10:18 AM
Nov 2020

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I suspect many will know what I'm gettin' at . . .



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