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doc03

(37,255 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 06:20 PM Jan 18

Watched American Primeval last night on Netflix. It was based on a true story about

early settlers in Utah that were massacred by the Mormans that then blamed the Native Americans.
There were 3 eye witnesses that escaped the massacre. The Mormans slaughtered the Native American village and set out
kill the witnesses. I had never heard of that massacre before.









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bucolic_frolic

(48,222 posts)
2. Religion again brings peace after the slaughter and subjugation.
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jan 18

Nice parallel to King Phillip's War. Massasoit.

montanacowboy

(6,384 posts)
3. Great Show
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 06:31 PM
Jan 18

well done, good acting.
The Mormans would like everyone to forget about their bloody past - fanatic religion, murder, subjugation of women. Nothing new to see here.

doc03

(37,255 posts)
4. Religion has been responsible for about every war in history. The fundamentalst
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jan 18

so-called Christians gave us Trump.

CanonRay

(15,008 posts)
5. I've been to the massacre site
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jan 18

It's just north of St. George, Utah. The show made it sound like it was near Ft. Bridger, which it was not. Ft.Bridger is off of I80 east of Evanston WY. There's an excellent but hard to find book on it called "The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The LDS church years ago tried to keep this book off the market by buying up much of the original printing. The victims were mostly California bound families fron Arkansas.

LisaM

(28,887 posts)
7. I have that book.
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jan 18

It's grim reading.

There's also an account of it in another hard-to-find book about the Mormon church called "The Refiner's Fire".

Bristlecone

(10,568 posts)
8. Under the Banner of Heaven
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jan 18

By Jon Krakauer does a decent job of highlighting LDS history and its violent past and semi-present. The Mountain Meadows Massacre is certainly part of that. There’s plenty more and the abhorrence of violence and manipulation/exploitation of women and men is very eye opening.

soldierant

(8,135 posts)
9. The Brits may be more knowledgeable about it, or about the general behavior of the Mormons in that place and time t
Sat Jan 18, 2025, 09:22 PM
Jan 18

than we do. Arthur Conan Doyle spilled the tea in "A STudy in Scarlet."

The Pinkertons were not all sweetness and light either.

LeftInTX

(31,904 posts)
11. Thanks! It's been popping up in my feed, but didn't know what it was about. Will watch it.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jan 22

I've heard about the massacre

La Coliniere

(1,196 posts)
12. Dark and violent retelling of this tragic event.
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jan 22

I was somewhat aware of the Mountain Meadow Massacre but I never researched the details so I can’t vouch for the accuracy in how this series renders it. I’m halfway through and I think the production design seems very authentic to the time and places being portrayed. Sometimes I’m bothered by the constant handheld camera and wish there was less of that. I’ll watch it to the end. I’ll never forget my first real awareness of Mormonism. On a ski trip to Utah in 1980 I started to read the Book of Mormon which was in the nightstand of my hotel room. Until then I thought they were a garden variety Protestant Christian offshoot that had a history of polygamy. Learning about Mormon history, how it began and who Joseph Smith was blew my mind.

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