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fotoshop be adobe (Original Post) seabeyond Jan 2012 OP
Fantastic! rocktivity Jan 2012 #1
Love it. n/t laconicsax Jan 2012 #2
snork iverglas Jan 2012 #3
Snort! CrispyQ Jan 2012 #7
k. BUT seabeyond Jan 2012 #8
aha, I was going to mention iverglas Jan 2012 #9
we both have blues thru out seabeyond Jan 2012 #10
here's one for your variation iverglas Jan 2012 #11
omg this is gold! Whisp Jan 2012 #4
there you go. boys have seen it. but you remind me of my two nieces. thanks. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #5
Outstanding! CrispyQ Jan 2012 #6
 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
3. snork
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 08:55 AM
Jan 2012

Now somebody tell me those lips at 00:47 aren't collagened.

I was amazed to read, a while back, that a photo of the skeletal Kate Middleton in her wedding dress on the cover of a magazine called Grazia in the UK was airbrushed to make her waist even smaller. (Inadvertently, of course.)

http://www.metro.co.uk/lifestyle/872190-kate-middleton-wedding-photo-was-airbrushed-grazia-admits

I got a lifetime ban from my favourite online genealogy forum last year for questioning Middleton's, um, value as a role model on several fronts. I figured that as the wife of Canada's future head of state, she was kinda fair game. I was wrong. Turned out only true brits were allowed to diss the royals. Fortunately, somebody has lent me a sockpuppet.

Anybody need any UK genealogy? The core group of ancestor-hunters at the site, a dozen or so women, are addicted to the chase, even for complete strangers' forefathers and foremothers. On that last, we're always amused by the men who announce they're only interested in their surname line, i.e. their direct male-line ancestors. At least when you trace through your female ancestors, you can actually be pretty sure that the people you find actually are your ancestors!

Not that I buy into the noise that circulates about the huge number of children who are found, when DNA analysis is done, not to be the children of their alleged fathers. I believe the finding comes from tests done in child support cases, when one might expect that the sample is kind of self-selecting and skewed.

CrispyQ

(38,131 posts)
7. Snort!
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

"At least when you trace through your female ancestors, you can actually be pretty sure that the people you find actually are your ancestors!"

I've often thought that that is where so much hatred of women lies with men - they can never know for certain if the child you bear is theirs. And because of that, we're all sluts.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. k. BUT
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

lol,

i am the least likely to cheat and there has never been a single thing to leave doubt, BUT

my last son. we were waiting and waiting for the blue eyes to go brown. hubby, my oldest and i all have brown hair and brown eyes. and we waited and waited. after one, i finally told hubby, this is it. not gonna change. in jest, but also serious, if you want to get a dna, go for it.

i think it is kinda a bummer that there is not the same security as we have. but it is what it is and i chose to make it easy for hubby..... if he needed.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
9. aha, I was going to mention
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jan 2012

I am one of four brown-eyed children of a pale-blue-eyed mother and a pale-green-eyed father. (We all have variations on brown hair; she is blonde and he had black hair.)

We were supposed to be genetic impossibilities. My little sister's grade 10 science teacher tried to help her when she couldn't do the BB Bb etc. chart for our family. He listened to her description, and then said "the milkman".

Four different milkmen in four different parts of town.

My darkest brown-eyed brother has a dark-blue-eyed son; his mother has blue eyes. The son too should be impossible, by the old theory.

More recent research shows that we are not impossible, although pretty rare; and all four being rarities makes us very very rare. I read one account on line of a brown-eyed offspring of blue-eyed parents having a blue-eyed fraternal twin.

I've seen the old simplistic theory, that there were just blue(green)-eyed genes and brown-eyed genes, in university-level curriculum materials on line, still.

Both my parents had just enough alleles for brown (and the colour variations are numerous) to produce, when combined, a brown-eyed child.

Your husband or you, or both, must have had just not quite enough!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. we both have blues thru out
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jan 2012

we can call to. jsut was a funny. but i love your info. my boys are very academic and into this stuff. i dont think they have heard this. thanks.

jsut a hoot with your family.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
11. here's one for your variation
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061023193617.htm

That one isn't the article I thought it was from the google results, but there are several articles listed as related stories that may apply.

That one's interesting, though. The blue-eyed co-vivant and I met on line and I guess he neglected to ask what colour my eyes were. He got my brown eyes, I got his diabetes and aversion to employment ... (I should be fair; he had previously had high-powered sales job in the office equipment industry, with Xerox and the like; the "inside sales" part of the industry collapsed around the time we met, with the internet and big box stores, and order clerks took the place of people like him. And middle age is not an advantage for job hunting as a sales "professional"; my dad suffered the same fate.)

ScienceDaily (Oct. 23, 2006) — Before you request a paternity test, spend a few minutes looking at your child’s eye color. It may just give you the answer you’re looking for. According to Bruno Laeng and colleagues, from the University of Tromso, Norway, the human eye color reflects a simple, predictable and reliable genetic pattern of inheritance. Their studies1, published in the Springer journal Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology, show that blue-eyed men find blue-eyed women more attractive than brown-eyed women. According to the researchers, it is because there could be an unconscious male adaptation for the detection of paternity, based on eye color.


-- except that the some of the "science" it goes on to spout -- that two blue-eyed parents can't have a brown-eyed child -- is crap. It does say, though (and I still think the part about 1/4 of children is crap; maybe a 1 in 4 chance for each child, which in our case made 4 kids out of 4):

If both parents have brown eyes yet carry the allele for blue eyes, a quarter of the children will have blue eyes, and three quarters will have brown eyes.


There are so many people spouting incorrect information about this on the net it's hard to find the facts. This is not your grandmother's genetics anymore, people!

Here we are, finally -- give your son this one.

http://www.athro.com/evo/gen/eyecols.html

Example 4
Parent 1: Brown Eyes, Genotype: bey2: Brown-blue, gey:Green-blue
Parent 2: Brown Eyes, Genotype: bey2: Brown-blue, gey:Green-blue
(and then there's a diagram)

Each child has a 75% probablility of brown eyes and a 18.75% probability of green eyes and a 6.25% probablity of blue eyes. On average, about three quarters of the children of this cross will have brown eyes, three sixteenths green eyes, and one sixteenth blue eyes.


Nothing there about blue- and green-eyed parents producing all brown-eyed kids, though.

But I can produce us at the eye colour calculator, and now I remember doing that some time ago:

http://www.athro.com/evo/inherit.html

and more at: http://www.athro.com/evo/gen/inherit1.html

So women, if your kid has odd eyes, send all the aunties and in-laws whispering behind their hands there!
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