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Eugene

(62,832 posts)
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 12:50 AM Jan 2023

N. Dakota bill would bar people from using pronouns according to gender identity; $1,500 fines threa

Source: NY Daily News

N. Dakota bill would bar people from using pronouns according to gender identity; $1,500 fines threatened

Muri Assunção, New York Daily News
Thu, January 19, 2023 at 6:25 PM EST

Republican lawmakers in North Dakota have introduced legislation seeking to prohibit transgender and nonbinary people from using pronouns according to their gender identity.

Senate Bill 1299 states that “words referring to an individual, person, employer, employee, contestant, participant, member, student, or juvenile must be used in the context of that person’s sex as determined at birth.

“Any person [who] violates this section must be assessed a fee of one thousand five hundred dollars,” the bill adds.

If the person’s gender identity or expression is contested, that determination should be established by the “individual’s deoxyribonucleic acid,” or DNA, the legislation states.

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/n-dakota-bill-bar-people-232500810.html

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N. Dakota bill would bar people from using pronouns according to gender identity; $1,500 fines threa (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2023 OP
Jesus fucking Christ ColinC Jan 2023 #1
How long until its illegal to be who I am? I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2023 #2
how the fuck is anyone supposed to know what sex they were "assigned" at birth? lapfog_1 Jan 2023 #3
So what happens when the gender identity is contested *and* the person is a chimera? RockRaven Jan 2023 #4
"The party of small government." FuzzyRabbit Jan 2023 #5
So first violation of the Constitution? vercetti2021 Jan 2023 #6
I totally understand! Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #7
OK. Suppose that I (not trans) refer to a transwoman as she? (for example) Pete Ross Junior Jan 2023 #8
Oooo...key....dough...key..., Herbert. lambchopp59 Jan 2023 #9

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,956 posts)
2. How long until its illegal to be who I am?
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 01:11 AM
Jan 2023

Fuck all conservatives
I say all because no
"reasonable "conservatives have stood up and denounced this shit.

RockRaven

(16,621 posts)
4. So what happens when the gender identity is contested *and* the person is a chimera?
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 01:32 AM
Jan 2023

Congratulations, you've established what exactly by the “individual’s deoxyribonucleic acid” in such a case? Do you even know, you willfully ignorant, obtuse, hateful fuckwits?

Note: there are myriad objections to this thing, I'm only pointing out a type of case where their prescribed "solution" is internally incoherent.

vercetti2021

(10,414 posts)
6. So first violation of the Constitution?
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 03:26 AM
Jan 2023

You can't just make people not use something that they don't want to use that's stupid that's so unconstitutional

Behind the Aegis

(54,983 posts)
7. I totally understand!
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 05:27 AM
Jan 2023

It is so difficult to call someone by their name! I mean if I meet someone and he tells me to call him "Chad", why should I oblige? I think he looks like his name is "David" and I should be allowed to call him by that name, not the one he tells me to call him! Sure, I may not know if that is his real name, so I will demand a birth certificate and double check before I allow him to tell me what I should call him!

So, how fucking STUPID does the above sound?! Insane? Deranged? Selfish and self-absorbed?!

THIS...THIS is what they are doing with their power?! THIS is how they govern?!

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!

I am so goddamned tired of people telling other people how they should live their lives when their very existence is NO threat to them. I am fucking sick of people telling others what their lived experience is or isn't!

Pete Ross Junior

(404 posts)
8. OK. Suppose that I (not trans) refer to a transwoman as she? (for example)
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 06:53 AM
Jan 2023

Do they fine me? Or both of us, because it is an illegal transaction so to speak?

Which party makes a big point about freedom of speech these days?

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
9. Oooo...key....dough...key..., Herbert.
Fri Jan 20, 2023, 09:33 AM
Jan 2023

Holy Jeebus Christ Crunch Cereal how far into the fake controversy realm are we in North DaKracker now?
That does it. Someone needs to take out the broadcast tower atop the Fox News building about like the climax in the movie "They Live". I couldn't find that particular clip offhand.
For anyone too young to recall: here's a general recap:

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