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Eko

(8,777 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 06:16 PM Jan 19

I think it is worth thinking about that President Jimmy Carter thought that there was apartheid in Israel.

Jimmy Carter Was Right About Israel’s Apartheid
In 2006, Carter published Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, in which he equated Israel’s occupation in the West Bank to the apartheid system of South Africa. Carter defined apartheid as the “forced separation of two peoples in the same territory with one of the groups dominating or controlling the other.” What follows, he concluded, is that Israel was creating a “system of apartheid” where a minority of Israeli settlers were ruling over a Palestinian majority who are deprived of basic human and civil rights.

Carter went further. In an interview with MSNBC, he called Israel’s rule in the West Bank “a horrendous example of apartheid” and “one of the worst examples of human right deprivations that I know.” In fact, Carter went on to warn that Israel’s apartheid system was even worse than South Africa. As he later told CBS: “When Israel does occupy this territory deep within the West Bank, and connects the 200 or so settlements with each other, with a road, and then prohibits the Palestinians from using that road, or in many cases even crossing the road, this perpetrates even worse instances of apartness, or apartheid, than we witnessed even in South Africa.”

Carter’s warnings proved perceptive. In recent years, the grim reality of Israeli apartheid has been depicted in shocking detail by a host of damning international reports, from Amnesty International to Human Rights Watch. By their account, Israel has created a deeply entrenched system of ethnic segregation where Palestinians and Israeli Jews in the West Bank live under a two-tiered legal system, which grants settlers special status while depriving Palestinians of basic human rights. While Jewish settlers enjoy all the civic privileges and legal protections afforded by the Israeli law — including Israeli citizenship, the right to vote in Israeli elections, and access to Israel’s civilian courts — Palestinians living effectively under Israeli military rule are deprived of all the legal rights and protections afforded to settlers.

Much more in the article.
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Lonestarblue

(12,162 posts)
1. I do not think anything has changed for the better since this book was published in 2006.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jan 19

Israel has clearly practiced ethnic apartheid for many years. The lives of Palestinians have only gotten worse.

brush

(58,593 posts)
4. There's no question about it. Look for warmonger Netanyaju to disrupt this ceasefire before it comes to a...
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 08:06 PM
Jan 19

permanent end of hostilities as he wants the Palestinians completely gone from Gaza and continued land theft in the West Bank.

Count on it.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,583 posts)
6. Is there anyone on the planet that does NOT think Netanyahu wanted a rightwing Trumpf win in 2024?
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jan 19

President Biden called Netanyahu out on his barbaric attacks on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. Bibi basically replied: "America did it. Your country carpet-bombed countries too."

Read their exact exchange in link below.



Source:

https://news.yahoo.com/news/biden-jokes-netanyahu-gaza-strategy-155813379.html

brush

(58,593 posts)
8. Oh great, but WWll bombing was to win the war, not to ethnic cleanse.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jan 19

Big difference, warmonger Netanyahu.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,583 posts)
5. Those Settlers also enjoy top-notch universal health care unlike hardworking American taxpayers.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 08:08 PM
Jan 19
"Israel ranks 10th best health care system in 2024 review"


Sheba Hospital, Israel.


Source:

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/technology-science/artc-israel-ranks-10th-best-health-care-system-in-2024-review

Mosby

(17,929 posts)
10. How is there apartheid in Israel?
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jan 20

Everyone has the same rights.

The West Bank and Gaza aren't Israel.

His words:

"I emphasized, as I had throughout the tour, that the book was about conditions and events in the Palestinian territories and not in Israel, where a democracy exists with all the freedoms we enjoy in our country and Israeli Jews and Arabs are legally guaranteed the same rights as citizens.


https://jweekly.com/2025/01/03/when-i-met-with-president-carter-about-israels-apartheid/

questionseverything

(10,379 posts)
11. Palestinians are routinely held and jailed w/o charges in Israel
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jan 20

Maybe they didn’t back then but they certainly do now so not a democracy

Mosby

(17,929 posts)
12. That's true.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jan 20

And if Palestine was a country, which it's not, that would be a problem. But the situation is that people who live in the OTs are stateless, and when they commit crimes in Israel they can be held without trial and at some point be deported back to the OTs.

It's the same everywhere. Palestinians have been expelled everywhere, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq etc. Maybe ask yourself why.

Eta ask yourself whether undocumented people from central and south America recieve "due process" when they commit crimes in the US. The answer is no, they do not recieve constitutional protections. Is that American Apartheid?

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