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Israeli

(4,286 posts)
Wed May 1, 2024, 05:08 AM May 2024

Far-right minister claims hostage deal throws war goals in 'trash' to save hostages

In response, Lapid says Orit Strock’s ‘extremist’ government has ‘no right to exist’; Movement for Quality Government calls on Netanyahu to fire her

By SAM SOKOL
Today, 12:18 pm

Settlements and National Projects Minister Orit Strock sparked fierce criticism on Wednesday when she rejected the “terrible” hostage deal currently being negotiated in Egypt and said that its approval would be tantamount to a betrayal of IDF soldiers and Israel’s war aims.

There are “soldiers who left everything behind and went out to fight for goals that the government defined, and we throw it in the trash to save 22 people or 33 or I don’t know how many,” the far-right minister told Army Radio. “Such a government has no right to exist.”

Condemning Strock, Opposition Leader Yair Lapid tweeted that “a government with 22 or 33 extremist coalition members has no right to exist,” while Minister Chili Tropper of National Unity, who sits with Strock in the cabinet, accused her of insensitivity toward the hostages.

(snip)

His announcement on Tuesday came shortly after National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir said, following a private meeting with the prime minister, that Netanyahu had promised not to agree to a “reckless” hostage deal.

Responding to Ben Gvir and Smotrich, National Unity Minister Gadi Eisenkot, an observer in the war cabinet, slammed what he described as political blackmail.

Calling their actions “a serious phenomenon that harms Israel’s national security,” Eisenkot asserted that he “will only be a partner in a government that makes decisions based on the national interests of the State of Israel, and not on political considerations.”


Smotrich hit back at Eisenkot, calling for him to show “a little humility,” and adding that it was his “duty to act against a bad deal that will endanger the security of the citizens of Israel.”

While Eisenkot condemned Smotrich and Ben Gvir’s threats, National Unity leader Benny Gantz earlier this week used similar language, saying that if the government rejects a hostage deal backed by the security services, it will “have no right to continue to exist.”

Source : https://www.timesofisrael.com/far-right-minister-claims-hostage-deal-throws-war-goals-in-trash-to-save-hostages/


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Far-right minister claims hostage deal throws war goals in 'trash' to save hostages (Original Post) Israeli May 2024 OP
Some Jews are important. Others aren't. Apparently to all RWers, some lives are important, the rest can GFT. AZLD4Candidate May 2024 #1
This coalition sabbat hunter May 2024 #2
You are working on the assumption Israeli May 2024 #3
Israel Must Choose: A Far-right Minister or the Hostages Israeli May 2024 #4
Is there any way sabbat hunter May 2024 #5

AZLD4Candidate

(6,257 posts)
1. Some Jews are important. Others aren't. Apparently to all RWers, some lives are important, the rest can GFT.
Wed May 1, 2024, 02:03 PM
May 2024

sabbat hunter

(6,888 posts)
2. This coalition
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:36 PM
May 2024

is full of so many PoS like Strock. I wonder if Benny Gantz should just quit the coalition, as it doesn't appear he has any real influence on Bibi and his far right wing allies.

Israeli

(4,286 posts)
3. You are working on the assumption
Thu May 2, 2024, 07:11 AM
May 2024

that if Gantz quits this government will fall .

Then what do we do without any gov or war cabinet in the middle of a war ??

It wont fall without Gantz , the most likely option is that Bibi will replace him with
Ben Gvir ......its Ben Gvir's ultimate wish come true to be a member of the war cabinet .
Then God help us all .


Israeli

(4,286 posts)
4. Israel Must Choose: A Far-right Minister or the Hostages
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:03 AM
May 2024

The things National Missions Minister Orit Strock said to Army Radio on Wednesday attest to the stuff that the Religious Zionism party and government are made of. "A government that tells soldiers who went to war that's it's throwing it away to save 22 people or 33 people has no right to exist," she said shamelessly.

Both what she said and the way she said it reflect a contempt for human lives, which for Strock are no more than numbers. By her logic, issues of life and death, for those who have been rotting for some seven months in Hamas captivity, become a cost-benefit analysis – her benefit, of course.

For her, the greatest disaster ever to befall Israel since it was established is simply an opportunity to realize the dreams of transfer, occupation, and resettlement.

She displayed no sensitivity to the hostages, their families, and the Israel Defense Forces soldiers, in whose name she purported to speak, nor to the fallen soldiers, whose death she brazenly appropriated.


"A reckless deal that turns its back on the war's goals," Strock said, although bringing back the hostages is one of the war's two declared goals. But the war goals of Strock and her ideological colleagues – Bezalel Smotrich, Itamar Ben-Gvir and their likes – are not congruous with the war goals presented by the government.

They see the war, with the destruction, death, and devastation it brings, as an opportunity to implement objectives that are contrary to the interests of Israel and its people.
At the basis of Strock's and her colleagues' messianic, nationalist and racist vision is the "absolute elimination" of the Arabs Smotrich yearned this week to "blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven" and for Jewish settlement throughout the land, from the river to the sea. This nightmare should keep every Israeli who sees their future here awake at night.

If Israeli society wants to live, it must send people of Strock's, Smotrich's and Ben Gvir's ilk back to the fringes of society, from where they emerged. The one who moved them to center stage is the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu – who sold his soul to fanatic, racist messianism in exchange for power. He is the father of all sin.


The hostages in Gaza are not supposed to be measured in terms of cost-benefit, which reflects contempt for human life, because they are part of the Israeli soul that still sanctifies life rather than blood and soil. Strock and her colleagues object to a hostage-prisoner swap deal because they object to the sane, normal way in which the state's affairs must be conducted.
The only way to overcome the force of those trying to sabotage the deal is to activate more public force and increase the public presence in the streets. It's either Strock and her friends, or the hostages.

Source : Haaretz
Link : https://archive.md/w1hgx

sabbat hunter

(6,888 posts)
5. Is there any way
Fri May 3, 2024, 11:39 AM
May 2024

that Gantz can force new elections?

The UK had elections in the middle of WW2, so did the US. There is no reason that Israel cannot have new elections now either.

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