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Related: About this forumLarge majority of Senate pushes Obama to boost Israel aid
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than four-fifths of the U.S. Senate have signed a letter urging President Barack Obama to quickly reach an agreement on a new defense aid package for Israel worth more than the current $3 billion per year.
Eight-three of the 100 senators signed the letter, led by Republican Lindsey Graham and Democrat Chris Coons. Senator Ted Cruz, a 2016 presidential candidate, was one of the 51 Republicans on board. The Senate's Democratic White House hopeful, Bernie Sanders, was not among the 32 Democrats.
"In light of Israel's dramatically rising defense challenges, we stand ready to support a substantially enhanced new long-term agreement to help provide Israel the resources it requires to defend itself and preserve its qualitative military edge," said the letter, which was seen by Reuters.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-large-majority-senate-pushes-obama-boost-israel-110809742.html
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)I get why Republicans always pander to Israel when it comes to throwing money around to impress the religious right voters. The Dems don't have the same excuse, but between the lobbyists for AIPAC, the military industrial complex, and big banks, everyone gets a cash prize here.
Mosby
(17,329 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:14 PM - Edit history (2)
Maybe the Senate Dems just like Democratic Israel and think they need our help given the complete cluster fuck the middle east has turned into.
procon
(15,805 posts)Seriously, there's "help" and then there's enabling, and the US doesn't look good playing the role of a codependent. If these self serving politicians can miraculously come up with more millions and billions to bail out Israel -- again -- then let's put Americans at the top of the recipient list instead and aid our own downtrodden citizens first.
shira
(30,109 posts)...when it took out both reactors in 1981 and 2007.
So yeah, it's a 2-way street. The USA had no clue what was going on in Syria 2007. Today, ISIS could have nukes.
procon
(15,805 posts)US citizens don't owe Israel money for bombing another country under the unsubstantiated -- and very questionable --supposition that "ISIS could have nukes". Yeah, that's quite a stretch... and I'm sticking with, no. Cut the dang purse strings.
If Israel or any other country needs humanitarian aid, wants agricultural assistance or cultural exchange programs, I'm all in. Look, if we have untapped billions laying around with nothing to do, how many American kids could get full university scholarships instead of enabling foreign political factions that perpetuate more deaths and destruction?
shira
(30,109 posts)Without Israel, the US would have 10's of thousands of troops stationed in that area permanently, going back decades, costing untold billions per year - and American lives.
As to ISIS having nukes, it's true. Israel most likely saved the world from that.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/25/its-the-proliferation-stupid/
The fact is that the United States dodged a bullet in Syria and, its worth stressing, all courtesy of the Israelis. Not only did they discover Al-Kibar in the nick of time. They also carried out the attack that was almost certainly the only means of ensuring the reactor never went hot. The Syrian civil war has without doubt been a strategic catastrophe. But just imagine the nightmare that the world would have faced if, on top of everything else, we were also dealing with the nightmare of the Islamic State getting its hands on a plutonium-producing nuclear reactor.
procon
(15,805 posts)Israel seems quite intent on running its military operations without desiring American accord, so why expect us to foot the bill? The government of Israel also seems quite determined to act independently, as shown by the recent schism with our president. Since they do not want US involvement in their affairs, why stop there, stop asking for money.
shira
(30,109 posts)I'm totally for that.
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King_David
(14,851 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)Forget about paying to fix the shameful infrastructure in this country.... you'd think Americans would get sick to death of it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)When was the last time 83 senators agreed on anything?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Israeli
(4,286 posts)Gideon Levy Apr 28, 2016
The 83 U.S. senators who urged the president to increase military assistance to Israel are 83 ignoramuses and their letter is a disgrace. Israel of all countries? Military assistance of all needs?
Increasing military aid wont add one iota of security to Israel, which is armed to the teeth. It will harm Israel. Those 83 out of 100 senators base their extraordinary demand on Israels dramatically rising defense challenges.
What are they talking about? What rising challenges? The rise in the use of kitchen knives as a deal-breaking weapon in the Middle East? The challenge for one of the worlds strongest armies to survive against young girls brandishing scissors? Hamas tunnels in the sand? Hezbollah, which is bleeding in Syria? Iran, which has taken a new path?
Its time they expanded their narrow view and reduced the enormous aid they shower on Israels arms industry one of the worlds largest weapons exporters and its army.
The United States is allowed, of course, to waste its money as it sees fit. But one may ask, senators, if it makes sense to invest more fantastic sums to arm a military power when tens of millions of Americans still have no health insurance and your senate is tightening its purse strings despite the challenges of climate change.
A world power is arming a regional power as part of a corrupt, rotten deal. Your money, senators, is largely being spent on maintaining a brutal, illegal occupation that your country claims to oppose but finances.
The weapons you provide are for a brazen state that dares defy America more than any of its allies does. It ignores Americas advice and even humiliates its president. It gets twice the aid you give Egypt, an ally that needs the money much more. Its three times more than you give Afghanistan, which is devastated in part because of you.
Its almost four times more than you give Jordan, which is in a precarious state due to refugees and the Islamic State. To Vietnam, which you destroyed, you gave $121 million, and to Laos, which you ruined, $15 million. Impoverished Liberia received $156 million and awakening, liberated South Africa $490 million.
But for Israel, even $3 billion a year isnt enough. It gets more than any other country in the world yet insists on $4 billion, not a cent less, including an unconditional commitment for a decade.
If youve already decided to pour such huge sums on Israel, why on its army of all things? Have you seen what its hospitals look like? And if youre financing weapons, why not condition it on the only democracy in the regions appropriate behavior?
What do you have over there in the worlds most important legislature? An automatic signing machine for letters supporting Israel? An ATM for the Jewish lobbys every whim? Only 17 of 100 senators were courageous enough, or bothered to think for a moment, before they signed another scandalous venture by AIPAC and the Israeli Embassy.
More money to arm Israel will end in blood. It must end in blood. There are old weapons that must be used and new weapons that must be tried (and then sold to Azerbaijan and Ivory Coast).
This destructive, murderous force will fall again on devastated houses in Gaza, and America will finance it all once again. The money will also corrupt Israel. If this is the prize for its refusal to make peace and its flouting of international law, why shouldnt it behave this way? Uncle Sam will pay.
The senators who signed the letter didnt act for either their countrys good or Israels. Its doubtful whether they know what they signed. It's doubtful whether they know what the real situation is.
Maybe among them are people of conscience or people familiar with their countrys national interests. But the blood money will serve neither those interests nor morality.
Gideon Levy
Haaretz Correspondent
Source: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.716703