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Related: About this forumJews-only Poll Highlight Israeli Youths' Drift to the Right
Poll commissioned by Sheldon Adelson-owned Israel Hayom conducted on 11th and 12th grade high school students exclusively from the Jewish sector, excluding the near-quarter of the countrys non-Jewish population.
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Among the findings of the poll, which was conducted on 11th and 12th grade high school students exclusively from the Jewish sector, excluding the near-quarter of the countrys population that is not Jewish:
- Nearly 60 percent of those questioned described themselves as being politically right-wing, with 23 percent saying that they were centrists and only 13 percent saying they were left-wing.
- An overwhelming majority, 82 percent, said that they believed there was no chance or barely a chance for peace deal with the Palestinians.
- 85 percent of those polled said they loved their country or loved it very much with 89 percent of them said they planned to live out their lives in Israel.
- 88 percent of the teenagers said they planned to do their compulsory military service. 65 percent of them agreed with the statement Its good to die for your country (a quote attributed to Zionist activist and war hero Joseph Trumpeldor) More than half of those polled said there was no more moral army in the world than the IDF.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.714220
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Jews-only Poll Highlight Israeli Youths' Drift to the Right (Original Post)
bemildred
Apr 2016
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underpants
(186,385 posts)1. Oy!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)2. Adelson ->> Push Poll.
However, still.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)3. Chickens come home to roost
it's from 2007 but it seems time to post this again
When I grew up near Tel Aviv in the 1970s, Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza were an indispensable part of the environment. Many of them worked in construction sites, laboring to turn my hometowns strawberry fields into a modern suburb. Others stood every morning in line at the towns highway intersection a common sight in Israeli cities then waiting for their chance to get a day job. Luckier Palestinians got jobs filling gas at service stations, washing dishes in restaurants and bars, or fixing cars. They served Israeli customers, and were even given Hebrew aliases by their employers. Thus, Ghazi became Roni and Mustafa turned into Moti. Despite a class system problematic in its own right, many of these workers experienced at least a measure of integration.
The Arabs, as they were called then, manned our countrys service sector for two decades after Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza in June 1967. But lacking civil or political rights, this underclass rebelled in December 1987. Termed the first intifada, the Palestinian uprising abruptly changed Israels reality. Palestinian workers disappeared from sight, first the young ones, then the elders.
Born a few months after the outbreak of the first intifada, my daughter grew up in a very different environment than I did. She has never met a Palestinian from the West Bank or Gaza. Now 19, she has seen our Palestinian neighbors only on TV, and views them as aliens. She is much more familiar with American brand names and sitcom characters than with the people who live 15 miles east of her Tel Aviv home.
My daughter is far from alone in her experience. Todays mainstream Israelis living comfortably in the Tel Aviv area hardly ever cross the Green Line separating Israel from the West Bank. In pre-intifada times, many Israelis traveled the short distance up the hills to buy cheap furniture at Bidyah or get their cars fixed in low-cost workshops in Jenin. Not anymore. Since the much bloodier second intifada erupted in September 2000, all Palestinian towns and villages are legally off-limits to Israelis. Moreover, few Israelis would even visit the controversial Israeli settlements on the hilltops. (Conversely, their religious, highly ideological inhabitants would feel out of place in Tel Aviv, just like Palestinians would.) Now, the only reason to go to Nablus or Ramallah, or to one of the Israeli settlements around them, would be for military duty. Otherwise, entering these towns is a life-threatening prospect for Israelis.
The Arabs, as they were called then, manned our countrys service sector for two decades after Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza in June 1967. But lacking civil or political rights, this underclass rebelled in December 1987. Termed the first intifada, the Palestinian uprising abruptly changed Israels reality. Palestinian workers disappeared from sight, first the young ones, then the elders.
Born a few months after the outbreak of the first intifada, my daughter grew up in a very different environment than I did. She has never met a Palestinian from the West Bank or Gaza. Now 19, she has seen our Palestinian neighbors only on TV, and views them as aliens. She is much more familiar with American brand names and sitcom characters than with the people who live 15 miles east of her Tel Aviv home.
My daughter is far from alone in her experience. Todays mainstream Israelis living comfortably in the Tel Aviv area hardly ever cross the Green Line separating Israel from the West Bank. In pre-intifada times, many Israelis traveled the short distance up the hills to buy cheap furniture at Bidyah or get their cars fixed in low-cost workshops in Jenin. Not anymore. Since the much bloodier second intifada erupted in September 2000, all Palestinian towns and villages are legally off-limits to Israelis. Moreover, few Israelis would even visit the controversial Israeli settlements on the hilltops. (Conversely, their religious, highly ideological inhabitants would feel out of place in Tel Aviv, just like Palestinians would.) Now, the only reason to go to Nablus or Ramallah, or to one of the Israeli settlements around them, would be for military duty. Otherwise, entering these towns is a life-threatening prospect for Israelis.
http://www.salon.com/2007/11/26/two_state/
bemildred
(90,061 posts)4. No surprise, no.
Doesn't suggest a peaceful future either.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)5. No it does not, we have a generation raised in this now
bemildred
(90,061 posts)6. Yeah. nt