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TexasTowelie

(115,253 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 02:25 AM Aug 2

Russia is Literally Running Out of Everything (Tanks, Planes, People...) - The Icarus Project



In this follow up to our most popular video ever, we take a closer look at the current state of the Russian army and the many issues that it faces in its war against Ukraine in 2024.

Put simply, Russia's military is running out of gear, equipment, and men. How much longer can they continue to fight Ukraine?
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Russia is Literally Running Out of Everything (Tanks, Planes, People...) - The Icarus Project (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 2 OP
You think they'd have learned something in Afghanistan captain queeg Aug 2 #1
Remember how Hitler fought on long after it was clear he'd lose DFW Aug 2 #2

captain queeg

(11,588 posts)
1. You think they'd have learned something in Afghanistan
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 02:35 AM
Aug 2

They ended up walking out and leaving their equipment behind. There were tank junkyards with 100s of tanks piled up and being scrapped. Just like everywhere the poor grunt on the field continues to pay while their leaders keep dithering away.

DFW

(55,940 posts)
2. Remember how Hitler fought on long after it was clear he'd lose
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 07:48 AM
Aug 2

Absolute monarchs (or dictators) fight on long after it is clear all will be lost if they fight to the bitter end. As long as Putin can put up the appearance of being able to fight on, he will.

If deposed while still alive, where would he go? China? North Korea? Cuba? Maybe he has enough to fortify his palatial estate near Sochi for a while, but that is still within Russia, and must be resupplied with food, water, arms and energy. The big difference is that Russia is under no external threat. No one wants to occupy and feed such a vast country. So, I think that Putin can and will hold on for much longer than a year. The only thing that could save Russia now would be a mutiny from within. As we saw with Prigozhin, Putin is smart enough to smell dissent in the ranks from far off, and, as a product of the KGB, knows how to deal with it. Any internal attempt to “save Russia from itself” is a suicide mission. No one wants to end up like von Stauffenberg. Even if you know your ship is going down, there is always hope for a place on the lifeboats.

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