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hatrack

(61,552 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:15 AM Friday

Why Face Reality When You Can Wrap Increasingly Undeniable Climate Chaos In Conspiracy Theories

The rise in extreme weather is not generating political support for climate action, Germany’s best-known climate activist has warned, as conspiracy theories increasingly circle after disasters made worse by global heating. “Like many, I did buy into the idea that big catastrophes would do something to politics,” said Luisa Neubauer from Fridays for Future Germany. “I bought into that – and I’m glad about it – because I was naively believing there was a democratic responsibility that would live through coalition changes and climate changes.”

The 28-year-old activist, who spent three months in the US before the presidential election, said she had been shocked to see the destruction from Hurricane Helene “play into the cards of those denying climate disasters”. Far-right influencers and conspiracy theorists used the wildfires that ravaged California this month to attack efforts to stop the planet from heating. Similar disinformation was seen in Spain after deadly floods struck Valencia in October. On Wednesday, the Guardian revealed the extent to which climate science deniers from a US-based thinktank had been working with rightwing politicians in Europe to campaign against efforts to protect nature and quit fossil fuels.

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Before the last German election in 2021, all parties bar the AfD promised to stop the planet from heating by 1.5C (2.7F) above pre-industrial levels by the end of the century. But in the four years since, public interest in cutting pollution has waned, anger at the Green party has surged – egged on by politicians across the political spectrum – and policies such as phasing out gas boilers have sparked fury among some voters. “With the German heating law, I think media and party politics tested the waters on how easy it is to get people tricked into believing the Greens want an eco-dictatorship … and that we need to protect ourselves from [climate activists], rather than the climate crisis,” said Neubauer. “Apparently that worked out well.”

Neubauer has previously criticised centrist politicans, including the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, from the centre-left Social Democratic party, for polluting the discourse and normalising hateful rhetoric against climate activists. She said Fridays for Future’s greatest failure in Germany was not embedding climate policy across the democratic spectrum “in a way that it could sustainably live on without us”. “It’s a disaster,” she said. “And I fear Germany is a very prominent example of what is happening in many liberal democracies around the world.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/24/extreme-weather-failing-encourage-political-climate-action-luisa-neubauer

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Why Face Reality When You Can Wrap Increasingly Undeniable Climate Chaos In Conspiracy Theories (Original Post) hatrack Friday OP
K&R Think. Again. Friday #1
The German "greens" outlawed CO2 free power and replaced it with coal. NNadir Friday #2
Head, Wall, Bang . . . . hatrack Friday #3
"out there" the United States of Confusion Caribbeans Friday #4
If I were in the business of greenwashing fossil fuels as "hydrogen" I would attempt to... NNadir Friday #5

NNadir

(35,006 posts)
2. The German "greens" outlawed CO2 free power and replaced it with coal.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 03:11 PM
Friday

That's unambiguously true.

Their 12 month average German carbon intensity is 372 grams CO2/kWh compared to France's 41 grams CO2 according to Energy Maps.

I wouldn't characterize German "Greens" as people concerned with the extreme global heating we are now experiencing. From my perspective they couldn't care less.

The unfortunate reality is that by associating liberal politics with so called "renewable energy" and the sucessful rise of antinuclear ignorance, we have reduced our credibility.

Caribbeans

(1,074 posts)
4. "out there" the United States of Confusion
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:23 PM
Friday

the most violent and dumbed down nation in the world circa 2024
USA USA USA USA USA

"out there" does not include the rest of the world


NNadir

(35,006 posts)
5. If I were in the business of greenwashing fossil fuels as "hydrogen" I would attempt to...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:55 PM
Friday

...downplay public stupidity while relying on it.

I mean one would need to assume public stupidity to play oil and gas rich nations like Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhubai UAE as going "green" because they put in a Potemkin hydrogen facility and put a few solar cells in the desert to make a nice photograph. Yet we see that sort of thing regularly here with accompanying slick videos, clearly from marketing teams.

The United States certainly has a large fraction of easily mislead sheep to be sure. Some of them buy that Donald Trump makes America great and some of them buy the bullshit that hydrogen is "green."

Both concepts rely on dishonesty, poor educations, moral vacuity and false advertising.

Have a nice weekend.

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