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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:05 PM Dec 2017

The Men Who Cost Clinton the Election

This op-ed is a good read

“Recent allegations suggest that perhaps the problem wasn’t that Clinton was untruthful or inherently hard to connect with, but that these particular men hold deep biases against women who seek power instead of sticking to acquiescent sex-object status.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/matt-lauer-hillary-clinton.html?
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The Men Who Cost Clinton the Election (Original Post) DesertRat Dec 2017 OP
Absolutely perfect! Chalco Dec 2017 #1
Old News, really. She was supposed to have won Scranton, PA question everything Dec 2017 #2
Yikes....are you saying a woman shouldn't run for President until men say it's okay? Laurian Dec 2017 #3
I really don't know. Perhaps a lot more ground work will have to be done question everything Dec 2017 #5
A great read radical noodle Dec 2017 #4
I can think of another... NurseJackie Dec 2017 #6
You're welcome! DesertRat Dec 2017 #7
+ One! Cha Dec 2017 #9
If men only want to vote for men...... Little Star Dec 2017 #8

question everything

(48,733 posts)
2. Old News, really. She was supposed to have won Scranton, PA
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 05:48 PM
Dec 2017

Her father family was from there; Biden is from there. But then a voter was interviewed and he said that a president is a man's job.

And this is why I am not sure it is wise to promote Warren or K. Harris just for the sake of having a woman candidate, when it is an uphill battle from the start.

If all the Evangelicals voted for misogynist groper Trump because they thought that a woman's place is at home, what chances will a woman have against a non-Trump Republican?

question everything

(48,733 posts)
5. I really don't know. Perhaps a lot more ground work will have to be done
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:47 PM
Dec 2017

Would a woman from the south or the Midwest be more acceptable? Alabama has a woman governor. I don't know first thing about her and she is an R who supports Moore. But, just as an exercise, would someone like her be more acceptable to them?

I really don't know and it is frustrating.

radical noodle

(8,473 posts)
4. A great read
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:08 PM
Dec 2017

It was so obvious to some of us at the time. Most Hillary supporters were furious, but there's nothing to do. If you call out sexism, some try to pretend it doesn't exist, just as they try to suggest that racism no longer exists.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I can think of another...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 04:10 PM
Dec 2017

... but this is a good start and an excellent read. THANK YOU very much for sharing it!

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
8. If men only want to vote for men......
Fri Dec 8, 2017, 06:11 PM
Dec 2017

then maybe I will only vote for women. If they cut off their nose to spite their face, two can play that game. Pisses me off.

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