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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,683 posts)
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 04:13 PM Jul 2023

Any thoughts on this: Apple 2020 MacBook Air Laptop M1 Chip, 13" Retina Display

Last edited Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

It's 25 percent off list price at a lot of places right now. Best Buy, Amazon, etc.

I am not a Prime member of Amazon, but everybody matches Amazon for price. Best Buy, if they don't have it at the store, will ship it to me for free.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-personal-shopper/2023/07/12/macbook-air-prime-day-2023/

https://www.pcguide.com/deals/save-250-off-apple-2020-macbook-air-13-post-prime-day-deals/

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/macbook-air-13-3-laptop-apple-m1-chip-8gb-memory-256gb-ssd-space-gray/5721600.p

I know; I can get Intel for less.

I'm not a gamer. This is probably more than I need, but I do want something nice.

Just curious. Thanks.

{edited} The Apple store; that is, the bricks and mortar Apple store, does not match the price, at least on its website.

https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m1/

{more editing} Thanks in advance for the replies. BB says their price is good until midnight Sunday. If the store runs out, I can wait a few days to have one shipped. I'm in no hurry.

Thanks again.

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Any thoughts on this: Apple 2020 MacBook Air Laptop M1 Chip, 13" Retina Display (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 OP
If its important to you... LakeVermilion Jul 2023 #1
the M1, etc. are the chips of the future for Apple.... bahboo Jul 2023 #2
Make Sure It Can Handle The Latest OS kabi knit Jul 2023 #3
Per the specs, mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #4
Informational :: OR Perhaps Not (?) kabi knit Jul 2023 #5
I just got off the phone from talking to Apple Support. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #6
Mac's-R-Good kabi knit Jul 2023 #7
Thanks. I don't really need anything this fancy-shmancy. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #8
Understood... kabi knit Jul 2023 #9
is your ibook still running ? if yes, i may have a request Tetrachloride Jul 2023 #10
The G4? I've got a few of them. I keep them around. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #11
after this stormy weekend, i should have my questions from 2 decades ago Tetrachloride Jul 2023 #12
I've got the books from back then too. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #13
very special question Tetrachloride Jul 2023 #14
I can't recall. I know I used to have one running 10.3.9. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2023 #15

LakeVermilion

(1,174 posts)
1. If its important to you...
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 04:25 PM
Jul 2023

Make sure it can handle the latest OS.

I would have kept my iMac desktop for ever. But there came a point that it couldn't handle the new operating systems. Sure it still worked, but it was like the World stopped, put me on the side of the road and moved on.

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
2. the M1, etc. are the chips of the future for Apple....
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jul 2023

they have M2 now and I think are going to M3. I would go with that 2020 laptop, so it remains current and upgradeable for longer....

kabi knit

(132 posts)
3. Make Sure It Can Handle The Latest OS
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 04:42 PM
Jul 2023

I agree with LakeVermilion (completely).

I have a mid 2009 MacBook Pro which I upgraded with a new solid-state drive and a new battery. Then I upgraded the OS to El Capitan; however, the OS cannot be upgraded any further due to hardware limitations.

So now I am on the same side of the road as LakeVermilion (is on).

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,683 posts)
4. Per the specs,
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:17 PM
Jul 2023
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/macbook-air-13-3-laptop-apple-m1-chip-8gb-memory-256gb-ssd-space-gray/5721600.p?skuId=5721600

it ships with Operating System macOS Big Sur 11.0.

I don't know where that ranks. I can tell you what Tiger and Panther and Leopard run on, but not Big Sur 11.0.

The same model, but with an M2 chipset,

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/macbook-pro-13-3-laptop-apple-m2-chip-8gb-memory-512gb-ssd-latest-model-space-gray/6509653.p?skuId=6509653

ships with Operating System macOS Monterey 12. I don't know how far up I can go with the M1 chipset.

I absolutely do not need the latest bells and whistles. The version with the M2 is an extra $550. Yikes.

Apple says

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201260

that the latest OS right now is macOS Ventura 13.4.1.

{edited}

This page

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201862

says I can upgrade to Ventura.

kabi knit

(132 posts)
5. Informational :: OR Perhaps Not (?)
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:35 PM
Jul 2023

I cannot specify a mac OS (for anyone), but if I were purchasing a new(er) mac I would seek out the latest OS.

Having said that, my sense (also) tells me that your selection of macOS Big Sur 11.0 should work nicely for the next several years. Just below is a link to an article detailing macOS versions:

All macOS versions from 2001 to 2023

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,683 posts)
6. I just got off the phone from talking to Apple Support.
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:41 PM
Jul 2023

It seems, that as the page https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201862 suggests, that the 2020 version with the M1 chipset can get a software update to Ventura 13.4.1.

I guess I'd go directly from Big Sur to Ventura, bypassing Monterey. I don't know if that makes sense geographically, but that's how they named their OSes.

I've long found Every Mac https://everymac.com/ to be a good source of specifications. Here what they say:

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/macbook-air-silicon-faq/macbook-air-silicon-macos-support-ipad-app-installation.html

What version of the macOS is pre-installed on the Apple Silicon MacBook Air?

Different Apple Silicon MacBook Air models originally shipped with different versions of the macOS:

MacBook Air Original macOS Version (Build Number)
M1 (2020) macOS Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B29)
M2 (2022) macOS Monterey 12.4 (21F2081)
M2 15" (2023) macOS Ventura 13.4 (22F2073)
Regardless of the version pre-installed, Apple Silicon MacBook Air models are fully compatible with the latest version of the macOS.

Thanks.

kabi knit

(132 posts)
7. Mac's-R-Good
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:50 PM
Jul 2023

For mac-questions, it's always best to go the 'source'.

I wish you good luck with your new mac-choice.

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,683 posts)
8. Thanks. I don't really need anything this fancy-shmancy.
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 05:54 PM
Jul 2023

If you saw what I was using last week, your jaw would drop.

Here's what happened. A company installing new internet in my neighborhood didn't take the time to mark existing underground cables, so they sawed right through my connection. My fallback position was an old dial-up connection. I was running an iBook G4 on OSX 10.4.11, Tiger. My browser was TenFourFox, the last version they released before throwing in the towel, fpr 32.5.

https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

People, that is slow. Right now, my cable service is back, and I'm on an employer-supplied laptop running Windows 11. Much faster.

kabi knit

(132 posts)
9. Understood...
Thu Jul 20, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jul 2023

I also have many much-older Windoze desktops on which I run older legacy software for my clients who absolutely refuse to update their equipment and/or their software.

These folks will pass into the ether long before they even think of upgrading...which is why I maintain my older devices.

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,683 posts)
15. I can't recall. I know I used to have one running 10.3.9.
Fri Jul 21, 2023, 06:09 AM
Jul 2023

None runs 10.2. I used to have the installation disks for 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, and 10.3, but they got thrown out while I wasn't looking.

I don't use those old ones too much, mostly to keep papers from blowing away.

What are you looking for in particular?

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