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FuzzyRabbit

(2,054 posts)
Wed May 1, 2024, 06:14 PM May 2024

Second Boeing whistleblower dies within 2 months.

Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems and one of the first whistleblowers to allege Spirit leadership had ignored manufacturing defects on the 737 MAX, died Tuesday after a short and sudden illness.

Dean, 45, lived in Wichita, Kan., where Spirit is based. Known as Josh, he had been healthy and was known for a healthy lifestyle.


https://www.seattletimes.com/business/whistleblower-josh-dean-of-boeing-supplier-spirit-aerosystems-has-died/

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Second Boeing whistleblower dies within 2 months. (Original Post) FuzzyRabbit May 2024 OP
Mmmm HMMMM........ Blue Owl May 2024 #1
Imagine that! 2naSalit May 2024 #2
Things that make you go "hmmmmm?" LoisB May 2024 #3
Okay Jilly_in_VA May 2024 #4
Prove you're right: maxsolomon May 2024 #6
IF there is an investigation, two weeks and earlier prior to entering hospital is the window of where a murderer Traurigkeit May 2024 #11
Do you know how to give someone Pneumonia, then a MRSA? maxsolomon May 2024 #14
He, an apparently perfectly healthy man, suddenly had breathing niyad May 2024 #17
Sorry, I remain a skeptic. maxsolomon May 2024 #20
MRSA is incredibly common in the general population. markodochartaigh May 2024 #19
well that's convenient TBF May 2024 #5
Amazing Daylily May 2024 #7
Boeing doing what TSF wants ... shot in daylight on fifth ave. Traurigkeit May 2024 #8
He wasn't shot orangecrush May 2024 #10
TSF wants to get away with murder. Traurigkeit May 2024 #12
The first one shot himself orangecrush May 2024 #9
I don't know how it would be done either. But the kinds of money and power people involved in this have access to Ford_Prefect May 2024 #16
See post 17. niyad May 2024 #18
What happened to Bob? "He had a sudden illness" chouchou May 2024 #13
Who is head at Boeing? Is he of Russian descent? Bev54 May 2024 #15

maxsolomon

(34,523 posts)
6. Prove you're right:
Wed May 1, 2024, 07:47 PM
May 2024
Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus, or MRSA.

His condition deteriorated rapidly, and he was airlifted from Wichita to a hospital in Oklahoma City, Parsons said. There he was put on an ECMO machine, which circulates and oxygenates a patient’s blood outside the body, taking over heart and lung function when a patient’s organs don’t work on their own.


How did the murderer give him a MRSA?
 

Traurigkeit

(1,290 posts)
11. IF there is an investigation, two weeks and earlier prior to entering hospital is the window of where a murderer
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:06 PM
May 2024

would have entered the picture.

Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago

maxsolomon

(34,523 posts)
14. Do you know how to give someone Pneumonia, then a MRSA?
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:25 PM
May 2024

I don't.

Maybe they're contracting it out to Rusher.

niyad

(118,050 posts)
17. He, an apparently perfectly healthy man, suddenly had breathing
Wed May 1, 2024, 09:05 PM
May 2024

difficulties so severe he was hospitalized, with all the attendant horrors that came about. Nobody was saying he was "gIven" MRSA, all of us can read the article, which says he contracted it in the hospital. "correcting" or "contradicting" something that was not said is not impressive.

maxsolomon

(34,523 posts)
20. Sorry, I remain a skeptic.
Thu May 2, 2024, 12:32 PM
May 2024

I don't believe it is likely that Boeing's management would contract out the murder of whistleblowers.

At the end of the month, I'll have the opportunity to talk to several friends that are active or recently retired long-time Boeing employees. I'll ask if they think management is capable of such skullduggery.

I also have a neighbor who became a Boeing whistleblower after the MAX crashes. He still works there, AFAIK. He has not been murdered in some exotic way.

markodochartaigh

(1,702 posts)
19. MRSA is incredibly common in the general population.
Wed May 1, 2024, 09:10 PM
May 2024

It is usually transmitted by physical contact with a person or object which is contaminated. But, airborne transmission is possible. There are different strains of MRSA and an individual's immune system is a huge variable. It seems like it would be difficult to infect an non-hospitalized individual's nasopharynx without their knowledge, but a close reading of the passage you quoted makes it seem that he developed MRSA as a nosocomial, or hospital acquired, infection. This would be fairly common.

I think that the question is why did he develop trouble breathing. I've been a registered nurse since 1983. When I worked on the High Plains it was very common for people with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease to have trouble breathing during spring storms with the change in barometric pressure from large storms. It certainly does seem an odd way for an assassin to work.



https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11405862/

orangecrush

(21,036 posts)
9. The first one shot himself
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:03 PM
May 2024

The second developed a drug resistant staph infection.

I don't know how you could intentionally give that to someone




Ford_Prefect

(8,160 posts)
16. I don't know how it would be done either. But the kinds of money and power people involved in this have access to
Wed May 1, 2024, 09:02 PM
May 2024

resources we can only imagine. This is way out of the bone saw league. If the Russian's hit squad can deliver cesium through casual contact, I think there are people on our side of the water who are similarly expert and capable. Some of them have specialized aircraft built to order by Boeing and may have secrets worth keeping themselves.

The point is not whether it could be done. The timing argues that it might be suspicious. Cui bono reasonably applies here. That he died is not a guarantee that malicious acts were involved but it does raise the question whether they could be.

Billions of dollars in profit, a decades long industry dominating history, combined with a future of the same at risk amount to powerful motivations IMO.

chouchou

(1,125 posts)
13. What happened to Bob? "He had a sudden illness"
Wed May 1, 2024, 08:12 PM
May 2024

Oh, I'm terribly sorry, If you don't mind, What illness was it? "A freight train"

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