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NJCher

(37,684 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 11:36 PM Jul 2024

'My bill is $782????' Why electricity costs have soared for some NJ customers

William Westhoven
Morristown Daily Record

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New Jersey residents have been bracing for higher electric bills since the state Board of Public Utilities approved rate hikes back in February.

Now the first bills reflecting those power rates have arrived, and homeowners are finding the change, in a word, shocking.

The base rate increases approved by the state ranged from about 3% to 9% and took effect on June 1. But that was the start of a hot, steamy month that ended up the second-warmest June in New Jersey history. And after an unusually cool June in 2023, the year-over-year comparison has been eye-opening.

"I have JCP&L and my bill is $782????" demanded one Parsippany resident on a local town page on Facebook. "Can this be right? I have an average-sized house!!!"

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progree

(11,463 posts)
1. Bad news on electricity bills, beginning with a small shift in average temp results in huge increase in extra hot days
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 12:29 AM
Jul 2024

How a small rightward shift in the average daily high temperature produces a huge increase in the frequency of very hot days:
e.g. a 2% increase in the July average daily high in a locale with a July average daily high of 85 degrees (e.g. New York City) produces a 2.44 fold increase (144% increase) in the number of 103+ degree July days.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143266574#post1

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Heat Waves - decade by decade from the 1960's on - 4 bar charts: Heat Wave Frequency, Heat Wave Duration, ...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3269663

Well if the accursed thing doesn't load, here it is:


https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-heat-waves


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And then I found this article 2 weeks ago,

Why your air conditioning bill is about to soar , Washington Post, 7/12/24
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/why-your-air-conditioning-bill-is-about-to-soar/ar-BB1pRxnN

(summarizing, in my words) Air conditioning costs rise with the SQUARE of the difference between the indoor and outdoor temperatures. e.g. if the indoor setpoint is 75 degrees, then an increase in outdoor temperature of just 4 degrees, from 96 to 100, increases AC cost 42% !.

Plus more than half the greenhouse gas consequences (and presumably more than half of the electricity cost) comes from dehumidying, which older AC's don't do efficiently. As if that's bad enough, the inability of older AC's to reduce the humidity enough causes people to lower their thermostats to feel comfortable -- yet even more expense and more greenhouse gas emissions.

The refrigerants used in AC's also contribute to global warming

jimfields33

(18,554 posts)
3. Luckily as more replace their HVAC,
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 06:38 AM
Jul 2024

The new Freon is not bad for the environment. So perhaps a cut off date for old HVACs needed. Say all HVACs need replaced by 2027 if more than 10 years old.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,221 posts)
4. Well, we have the technology to make homes that create their own energy...
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 06:42 AM
Jul 2024

But, why allow that when we can literally drag the nation backwards by maintaining outdated ideas and industries? After all, as stated below, it is all about greed, and with a central power grid (and, depending where you are, legislation that actually punishes people for trying to get off of said grid) being the only real option, we have little choice but to p(l)ay along.

Personally, I find it ridiculous that we are still locked into such a antiquated system of energy consumption. But, as stated, when your supplier is incapable of curtailing its own insatiable greed, we end up vulnerable and weakened. But, by all means, lets keep on with the fires and pollution being proliferated by greedy sub humans who think they are better than we are solely because they have more money. As if that means anything to anyone other than a fellow greed-infused American.

(Also, you ain't seen nuthin' yet. The 'rising arrow' of our greedy desire to always get more than the last time is completely unsustainable. It will all collapse soon enough. It didn't have to happen this way, but... we are humans and we seem incapable of denying our base desires even when it means our mutual destruction.)

NNadir

(34,533 posts)
5. You ain't seen nothing yet, as they say.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 07:06 AM
Jul 2024

New Jersey is strongly advocating for installing unreliable energy requiring redundancies, almost always using dangerous natural gas. This has both reliability and economic consequences, and since the fad of praising and throwing money at so called "renewable energy" has done zero to address extreme global heating, demand will rise and with it costs.

It's too bad no one is considering reopening Oyster Creek as is being done at Palisades in Michigan and is under consideration at the Duane Arnold nuclear plant in Iowa.

3Hotdogs

(13,344 posts)
6. JCP sucks. We have PS., with a two family house. We pay for both floors. (12 rooms, 5 peeps)
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 07:28 AM
Jul 2024

$330. per month. Heating is oil.

Then again, at least we don't live in Texas.

mitch96

(14,607 posts)
7. And I thought my Florida mid summer ac on all the time bill at $210 was alot...Last month $177. Winter abt $50..nt
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jul 2024

progree

(11,463 posts)
8. I haven't run my AC yet so far (Minneapolis). Latest bill: $52
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jul 2024

I do fine with a fan, sometimes two are on. In past years I've occasionally opened the patio doors on the east side and windows on both sides upstairs and have my big box fan blow cool early morning air thru the house for about 30 minutes. It hasn't been necessary or worth the effort this year, so far.
 
But every time I step outside, I hear my neighbors' AC units running.

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