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Related: About this forumOn Bill Maher someone drew parallel between Kavanaugh and Ellison
Maher commented that, first Kavanaugh's office will be for life and, second, that the voters of Minnesota, not dried up white men will decide.
I admit, Ellison was not my choice in the primaries, but there is no way I am going to vote for his Republican opponent.
I still will not be surprised if in 2020 Ellison will challenge Tina Smith.
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On Bill Maher someone drew parallel between Kavanaugh and Ellison (Original Post)
question everything
Sep 2018
OP
since my uncle just had a crazy ex girlfriend. i know there can be crazy exes both sexes.
pansypoo53219
Sep 2018
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appalachiablue
(42,863 posts)1. Guest Thom Hartmann said that Ellison isn't a lifetime
Last edited Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:28 AM - Edit history (1)
appt., voters can decide unlike fro SC justice. I can't recall which of the 2 Republicans on the panel brought up Keith Ellison- thinking PJ O'Rourke. It was one of a bunch of good points made in that segment. Thanks for posting.
pansypoo53219
(21,696 posts)2. since my uncle just had a crazy ex girlfriend. i know there can be crazy exes both sexes.
question everything
(48,733 posts)3. An interesting op-ed in the strib yesterday By Lynnell Mickelsen
http://www.startribune.com/kavanaugh-and-ellison-what-s-the-difference-between-their-cases/494003261/
First, Kavanaugh is running for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the nation. Ellison is running for a four-year term to a state office.
Second, Kavanaughs fate is in the hands of the U.S. Senate, a small, exclusive and mostly white-male club. In contrast, every voter in Minnesota can weigh in on whether Ellison should be elected.
Third, Kavanaugh is being accused of attempting to rape a woman. Ellison is being accused of well, if you pay attention to the details pulling on his ex-girlfriends feet and demanding that she move out of his house because their relationship had ended.
A quick review: Ellison, who is divorced, had a five-year relationship with a local lobbyist named Karen Monahan. After they broke up, he started dating other people and she began accusing him of narcissistic abuse on Twitter and Facebook.
Her most serious charge which he denies is that he once tried to pull her off a bed after he asked her to take out the trash as he was leaving to catch an early flight back to Washington, D.C. This was in 2016. By this point, the two were sleeping in separate bedrooms but she was still staying at his house until she could find another place to live.
According to Monahan, she didnt answer his request because she was busy listening to a podcast. She says he then pulled on her ankles, cursed her and said she was a bad guest who needed to move out of his house before he returned from D.C. So thats her big domestic violence allegation. Its not pretty. But to me, it sounds like a painful, messy break-up of a relationship between two consenting middle-aged adults as opposed to abuse.
First, Kavanaugh is running for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the nation. Ellison is running for a four-year term to a state office.
Second, Kavanaughs fate is in the hands of the U.S. Senate, a small, exclusive and mostly white-male club. In contrast, every voter in Minnesota can weigh in on whether Ellison should be elected.
Third, Kavanaugh is being accused of attempting to rape a woman. Ellison is being accused of well, if you pay attention to the details pulling on his ex-girlfriends feet and demanding that she move out of his house because their relationship had ended.
A quick review: Ellison, who is divorced, had a five-year relationship with a local lobbyist named Karen Monahan. After they broke up, he started dating other people and she began accusing him of narcissistic abuse on Twitter and Facebook.
Her most serious charge which he denies is that he once tried to pull her off a bed after he asked her to take out the trash as he was leaving to catch an early flight back to Washington, D.C. This was in 2016. By this point, the two were sleeping in separate bedrooms but she was still staying at his house until she could find another place to live.
According to Monahan, she didnt answer his request because she was busy listening to a podcast. She says he then pulled on her ankles, cursed her and said she was a bad guest who needed to move out of his house before he returned from D.C. So thats her big domestic violence allegation. Its not pretty. But to me, it sounds like a painful, messy break-up of a relationship between two consenting middle-aged adults as opposed to abuse.
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(11,463 posts)4. Hmm. I thought she claims he actually pulled her off the bed
https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-democratic-chairman-says-ellison-probe-wrapping-161616922.html
Another one from a month ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-accusing-rep-keith-ellison-of-abuse-speaks-out-2018-08-16/
There are variations too of why she's not producing the video -- besides "it's too embarrasing", I've seen that she either lost it, or it's in some box in storage and/or lost.
Minnesota Democratic chairman says Ellison probe wrapping up, 9/25/18
Karen Monahan said Ellison once dragged her off a bed by her feet while screaming obscenities. She claims to have video footage of the 2016 incident but has refused to release it, saying it's embarrassing.
Karen Monahan said Ellison once dragged her off a bed by her feet while screaming obscenities. She claims to have video footage of the 2016 incident but has refused to release it, saying it's embarrassing.
Another one from a month ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-accusing-rep-keith-ellison-of-abuse-speaks-out-2018-08-16/
"He looked at me, goes 'Hey you f***ing hear me
and then he looked at me, he goes 'Bitch, get the f*** out of my house,' and he started to try to drag me off the bed," Monahan said. "That's when I put my camera on to video him."
... Monahan said she never reported the incident to police and said being dragged off the bed was the only time Ellison got physical with her during their three-year relationship.
... Monahan said she never reported the incident to police and said being dragged off the bed was the only time Ellison got physical with her during their three-year relationship.
There are variations too of why she's not producing the video -- besides "it's too embarrasing", I've seen that she either lost it, or it's in some box in storage and/or lost.