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elleng

(135,875 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:08 PM Jan 2021

"THE PRESIDENT IS BOTH UNFIT AND A CONSTITUTIONAL CRIMINAL": CONGRESSMAN JAMIE RASKIN

ON TRUMP’S 25TH AMENDMENT CRISIS—AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF IMPEACHMENT

Raskin, a constitutional law expert who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, is at the center of the fallout from the Trump-incited Capitol attack, where he and his family members were forced to shelter in place. “There is broad bipartisan consensus now that Donald Trump is a lethal danger to our republic,” he says.

Less than a year after the Senate voted to acquit Donald Trump on two articles of impeachment, Nancy Pelosi has threatened to launch formal proceedings to remove him from office yet again, after he egged on a furious mob that violently took over the Capitol Building. “This is an emergency of the highest magnitude,” Pelosi told reporters Thursday. “While there’s only 13 days left, any day can be a horror show for America.” The House Speaker said the best course of action would be for Mike Pence to put Trump’s removal from office into motion under the 25th Amendment. Failing that, Pelosi said Friday that the Democratically controlled House would take up the mantle through impeachment—a move backed by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer—if the president didn’t resign “immediately.” . .

Congressman Jamie Raskin—a member of the House Judiciary Committee and a constitutional law professor—will have a front-row seat to the rapidly unspooling events of the next week. Raskin, who suffered a personal tragedy in December with the death of his son, and who was on the grounds of the Capitol as it was forcefully occupied by Trump supporters, nevertheless took the time to discuss the intricacies of the 25th Amendment and what a second impeachment of Donald Trump might look like.

Vanity Fair: Can you explain the 25th Amendment?

Congressman Raskin: The 25th Amendment is all about the preservation of the republic and the continuity of government. That’s why it’s in there. It was added to the Constitution in 1967, in the nuclear age, with the understanding that it could be extremely dangerous to have a vacuum or an unqualified person sitting in the Oval Office. And if you go back and you look at what Birch Bayh and Robert F. Kennedy were talking about, it was about the central importance of protecting the American system of government against destabilizing dynamics in the presidency.

How would it work in a situation like this, particularly as a number of Trump cabinet officials resign?

There are two big misconceptions about the 25th Amendment. The first is that it’s all about the removal of a president who is unable to discharge the powers and duties of office. That is section four, but the first three sections deal with other problems in terms of vacancies and instability in the presidency. Section one is all about if the presidency is vacant, the vice president becomes president, and that was not clear before. It was clear that the vice president exercised presidential powers, but it wasn’t clear that he actually became the president. Section two is all about filling a vice presidential vacancy by presidential nomination and then majority votes in both houses of Congress. The third section is about a president voluntarily transferring the powers of his or her office to the vice president in the event of a temporary vacancy. This too has happened numerous times, usually about the famous presidential colon. It’s happened during a number of colonoscopies. It happened during President Reagan’s colorectal surgery. But that is done voluntarily by the president. And it ends when the president is able to resume his or her duties.

Section four is the part that is about a president who for whatever reason—physical or mental—is unable to recognize his or her own inability to successfully discharge the powers and duties of office. So that’s what is coming to focus today, but understand that that’s part of a broader system of rules, which have been activated many times in our history. The other major misconception is that in section four, it requires the vice president and a majority of the cabinet to act. That is one of two ways it can be activated. The other is that the vice president and a majority of a body set up by Congress determined that there is a presidential inability to discharge the powers and duties of office. . .

It must have been a terrifying experience.

(((OMG!)))

I’ll tell you what was truly terrifying for me. I was okay. My son, whom we lost a week ago, was very politically engaged, and I felt him with me the whole time, so I knew I was exactly where I needed to be. But my youngest daughter asked me not to go in. I told her I had to because the stakes were so huge, and I invited her to come with me. So she was with me on the Hill Wednesday, as was my son-in-law, who is married to my other daughter. They were at the Capitol for seven harrowing hours and spent at least an hour hiding under a desk in Steny Hoyer’s office with my chief of staff while I was on the floor and this violent, rampaging mob was banging on doors and trying to get in and take over that office the way they took over and trashed Nancy Pelosi’s office. Offices were being stormed and people were being killed. While Donald Trump and his family threw a party to support this violent, seditious mob, my kids were hiding under a desk.'>>>


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jamie-raskin-donald-trump-25th-amendment-impeachment?

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"THE PRESIDENT IS BOTH UNFIT AND A CONSTITUTIONAL CRIMINAL": CONGRESSMAN JAMIE RASKIN (Original Post) elleng Jan 2021 OP
So, with the desertion of his cabinet... so what dweller Jan 2021 #1
This one line: Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #2
Yes, have quoted that a few times today. elleng Jan 2021 #3
i read this article earlier today and was so impressed with Jamie Raskin onetexan Jan 2021 #4

dweller

(24,957 posts)
1. So, with the desertion of his cabinet... so what
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:14 PM
Jan 2021

The other major misconception is that in section four, it requires the vice president and a majority of the cabinet to act. That is one of two ways it can be activated. The other is that the vice president and a majority of a body set up by Congress determined that there is a presidential inability to discharge the powers and duties of office.

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Wicked Blue

(6,627 posts)
2. This one line:
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 05:35 PM
Jan 2021

"While Donald Trump and his family threw a party to support this violent, seditious mob, my kids were hiding under a desk."

onetexan

(13,889 posts)
4. i read this article earlier today and was so impressed with Jamie Raskin
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:29 AM
Jan 2021

despite his enormous personal pain of loss, he was so strong and focused on carrying out the work of the people. What a great man. I'm so glad he is one of our Dems leaders.

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