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steve2470

(37,468 posts)
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:17 AM Jul 2022

Florida Governor signs law requiring students, faculty be asked their political beliefs

https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/559881-florida-gov-signs-law-requiring-students-and-faculty-be/

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Tuesday signed legislation mandating public colleges and universities survey students and faculty about their beliefs in an effort to promote intellectual diversity on campuses.

“We obviously want our universities to be focused on critical thinking, academic rigor,” DeSantis said during a news conference Tuesday, according to the Naples Daily News.

“We do not want them as basically hotbeds for stale ideology,” he said.

“It used to be thought that a university campus was a place where you’d be exposed to a lot of different ideas,” DeSantis said. “Unfortunately, now the norm is, these are more intellectually repressive environments,” he added.


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. This is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia. It is the proverbial camel's nose in the tent, the notching up of the temperature for the goldfish.

IT IS NOT THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S BUSINESS what students' and faculties' political beliefs are. This is an uwarranted intrusion about First Amendment rights.

Upon the election of either Crist or Fried, they need to immediately get this law off the books.
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Florida Governor signs law requiring students, faculty be asked their political beliefs (Original Post) steve2470 Jul 2022 OP
DeSantis keeps telling Floridians that he is a fascist. madaboutharry Jul 2022 #1
Actually, he is telling 'Merica Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #24
I think that the biggest problem is that people know it, and they approve. Chainfire Jul 2022 #28
authoritarians and fascists in florida will say there is no prob with this so give it up nt msongs Jul 2022 #2
if ANYTTHING defines "intellectually repressive environments" Skittles Jul 2022 #3
This was a year ago. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2022 #4
you are correct steve2470 Jul 2022 #5
Hey, with the authoritarian rat-f***ery here it is impossible to keep up Pacifist Patriot Jul 2022 #6
You are correct. It seems like his face finds a camera every single day. Amazing really. Lazy media dameatball Jul 2022 #30
That of course non-Constitutional, but with the... brush Jul 2022 #7
They're ordered to ask? calimary Jul 2022 #8
We all know what he means. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #9
Relax MoRon, House of Roberts Jul 2022 #10
He knows people are still going to flock to FL regardless. Gets worse every yr. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #15
Actually, I've seen articles that indicate that seniors are leaving for greener pastures Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #25
This is such a bad precedent allnews Jul 2022 #11
How to fill out that survey. edbermac Jul 2022 #12
Exactly. I've been lying on surveys for decades! oldsoftie Jul 2022 #16
95% Independent. multigraincracker Jul 2022 #19
Did Republicans just set the table Old Crank Jul 2022 #13
Exception for their wing of craz craz so called Christianity . ... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #14
Or as we in Florida like to call it, grooming. rubbersole Jul 2022 #17
If they asked me, I'd say vlyons Jul 2022 #18
This is Hillsdale College. gibraltar72 Jul 2022 #20
Back to the 1930s U.S. Marthe48 Jul 2022 #21
'Stale ideology' Icanthinkformyself Jul 2022 #22
When DeSantis says he wants "intellectual diversity on campuses" he means every insane sop Jul 2022 #23
The final nail in our coffin Chainfire Jul 2022 #26
That's not accurate. Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #27
DeSantis would like to form his own little DeSantis Youth program. Chainfire Jul 2022 #29
 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
28. I think that the biggest problem is that people know it, and they approve.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:55 AM
Jul 2022

Perhaps that will change at election time, but I am not holding my breath.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,894 posts)
4. This was a year ago.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:50 AM
Jul 2022

I have two kids at FSU who told me they haven't been surveyed yet. They are a little disappointed. They and all of their friends were planning on submitting "DeSantis is an authoritarian prick" as their sole contribution.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,894 posts)
6. Hey, with the authoritarian rat-f***ery here it is impossible to keep up
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 03:58 AM
Jul 2022

With fresh hells occurring almost daily, it is easy to miss something. With his authoritarian BS happening virtually nonstop it is almost impossible to remember what happened and when. It took me a moment to remember that was a year ago!!!

dameatball

(7,602 posts)
30. You are correct. It seems like his face finds a camera every single day. Amazing really. Lazy media
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jul 2022

seldom pushes back on much of anything. Next day same thing.

brush

(57,402 posts)
7. That of course non-Constitutional, but with the...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:12 AM
Jul 2022

SCOTUS Taliban 6 it makes no sense to try to tee up a case first through the lower courts and hope SCOTUS takes it up.

DeSantis is dangerous and out of control.

House of Roberts

(5,676 posts)
10. Relax MoRon,
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:50 AM
Jul 2022

pretty soon nobody will come to your state for any reason whatsoever. No one will want to work for a corporation there, or go to school there, or teach there, or be a tourist there.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
15. He knows people are still going to flock to FL regardless. Gets worse every yr.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:29 AM
Jul 2022

I quit going because I hate the MOBS of people. It aint stopping because of Jackass & he'll be gone in a few yrs anyway.

allnews

(245 posts)
11. This is such a bad precedent
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:54 AM
Jul 2022

There’s no way in hell I’d send my child to a school in Florida. Every day it’s something else with these fascist, when will it be enough? How is America letting people in power who it’s so obvious where their playbook comes from?

edbermac

(16,108 posts)
12. How to fill out that survey.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:55 AM
Jul 2022

When it comes to the question of political beliefs, check off “none of your fucking business.”

Old Crank

(4,589 posts)
13. Did Republicans just set the table
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 04:59 AM
Jul 2022

To defund every religious school in Florida.
Since all religious teaching is indoctrination.

Lovie777

(14,939 posts)
14. Exception for their wing of craz craz so called Christianity . ...
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:25 AM
Jul 2022

I assume either GQP don't care about history wherein many people came to the USA for "freedom of religion" or they don't give a shit.

I'll take both. The GQP never believed in "freedom" of anything. If Floridians still keep voting for them "freedom" will cease to exit.

Also pursuant to USA history, criminals were also sent. Hmmmmm, maybe the GQP are more incline to behave as their ancestry.

rubbersole

(8,445 posts)
17. Or as we in Florida like to call it, grooming.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:33 AM
Jul 2022

The little nazi started his post "covid deaths are my favorite thing" tour with this "smart people don't belong in my Florida" action a while ago. He's running out of people to demonize.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. If they asked me, I'd say
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 05:47 AM
Jul 2022

I belong to the NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS PARTY. I might even put some card stock in my printer and print an official NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS PARTY card membership.

gibraltar72

(7,629 posts)
20. This is Hillsdale College.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 06:03 AM
Jul 2022

and Larry Arnn speaking. DeSantis is just the dummy. Part of teaching through a religious lens. Religious Nationalism at it's worst.

Marthe48

(18,918 posts)
21. Back to the 1930s U.S.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 06:12 AM
Jul 2022

My husband's grandfather lost out on jobs because he was an r. I think this practice, at least for public positions, was outlawed on the 1960s. Now, if someone takes it up the court heirarchy, the 6 unelected despots will rule in favor of this assault on privacy.

Icanthinkformyself

(290 posts)
22. 'Stale ideology'
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 06:20 AM
Jul 2022

Conservatism is as stale and moldy as month old white bread. We should understand what conservatives do and how they think so we ca devise teaching plans that avoid it and. Some day researchers may find a cure for it. Until them we should isolate the current sufferers. Loyalty oaths will be mandatory at the federal level if this kkklown steals 2024. The Old Fat Orange Mar-A Lardo resident kkklown will be a fond memory after Death Sentence and his party get through with raping America. He is an intelligent version of hate.

sop

(11,117 posts)
23. When DeSantis says he wants "intellectual diversity on campuses" he means every insane
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 06:41 AM
Jul 2022

rightwing ideology and theory should also be taught in Florida's public universities. Many Republican parents say the education their offspring receive in public schools and universities is too liberal. In truth they're upset the crazy ideas they taught them at home aren't being reinforced at school.

The problem with DeSantis' latest fatwa is that truth, facts and reality have a well known liberal bias. Reputable academicians refuse to go along with the science-denying, quasi-religious claptrap, and all the rightwing conspiracy theories and revisionist history Mullah Ron wants them to teach.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
26. The final nail in our coffin
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:52 AM
Jul 2022

will be if Trump goes unprosecuted and DeSantis becomes president. (or king as the case may be)

Make no mistake, DeSantis, despite his education, is a dyed-in-the-wool, unapologetic Fascist. He will suit the Republican Party fine.

Phoenix61

(17,590 posts)
27. That's not accurate.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 07:55 AM
Jul 2022

“That story is about HB 233, specifically the requirement in the bill that the State Board of Education and the Board of Governors must "select or create an objective, nonpartisan, and statistically valid survey to be used by each institution which considers the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented and members of the college community, including students, faculty, and staff, feel free to express their beliefs and viewpoints on campus and in the classroom."”

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/25/viral-image/new-florida-law-requires-public-universities-surve/

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