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Auggie

(31,775 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 11:49 AM Aug 2023

Crime is so bad near S.F. Federal building employees are told to work from home

San Francisco Chronicle

Officials at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services advised hundreds of employees in San Francisco to work remotely for the foreseeable future due to public safety concerns outside the Nancy Pelosi Federal Building on Seventh Street.

The imposing, 18-story tower on the corner of Seventh and Mission streets houses various federal agencies, including HHS, the U.S. Department of Labor, the U.S. Department of Transportation and the office of Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi. The area is also home to one of the city’s most brazen open-air drug markets, where dozens of dealers and users congregate on a daily basis.

SNIP

The building has long been a locus of some of the city’s most intractable problems.

Dozens of dealers routinely plant themselves on, next to or across the street from the property, operating in shifts as users smoke, snort or shoot up their recent purchases. The property’s concrete benches are an especially popular site for users to get high, socialize or pass out.

Link (paywall): https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/drugs-crime-nancy-pelosi-federal-building-18292237.php

Highlights from the link:

• HHS Assistant Secretary for Administration Cheryl R. Campbell issued the stay-home recommendation in an Aug. 4 memo

• Apparently, the GSA has recently implemented a number of new security measures to address safety concerns. This includes:

-- pulling Federal Protective Service personnel from other nearby properties;

-- a pending vote on funds for an additional “roving” guard dedicated to the property;

-- creating a “BART Buddies” program of on-call escorts

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Wow

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Crime is so bad near S.F. Federal building employees are told to work from home (Original Post) Auggie Aug 2023 OP
when everyone knows where the drug market is, mopinko Aug 2023 #1
Who would be bribing them? MichMan Aug 2023 #3
dealers pay the cops. mopinko Aug 2023 #4
It doesn't have to be bribes up front. hunter Aug 2023 #17
I had to wait at the 7th & Mission MUNI stop directly in front of the Federal Building. It was scary NBachers Aug 2023 #2
I've already re-assessed my liberal views. I also live in the Bay Area. demosincebirth Aug 2023 #9
A snapshot of the great American drug consumer driving the profits and death of the drug cartels. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #5
Why is this allowed? Fullduplexxx Aug 2023 #6
Crime is going to be a big problem for the Democrats, it's everywhere and the GOP will dem4decades Aug 2023 #7
Very true! Homelessness and crime are tied together. demosincebirth Aug 2023 #10
Yes but the crime spree I'm talking about is inner city youths and gangs. Big problem around dem4decades Aug 2023 #11
The "defund the police" movement, I think may have cost us the House demosincebirth Aug 2023 #16
If you see Kamala or Gavin running, it'll be California homeless & drug casualties 24/7. NBachers Aug 2023 #12
I'd rather see Gavin run, he seems like he could turn the table on weak attacks better. dem4decades Aug 2023 #13
I agree Auggie Aug 2023 #8
Don't forget what the news team uncovered decades ago: lambchopp59 Aug 2023 #15
Regular trips into the city lambchopp59 Aug 2023 #14
I worked at 450 Golden Gate Ave. for several years CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #18
videos just show a lot of drugged up looking people hanging about BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 2023 #19

mopinko

(71,740 posts)
1. when everyone knows where the drug market is,
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:03 PM
Aug 2023

and it operates openly, someone’s palms r getting greased.
start there.

hunter

(38,870 posts)
17. It doesn't have to be bribes up front.
Wed Aug 16, 2023, 01:19 PM
Aug 2023

If you let a place go completely to shit developers can buy it up for cheap and pay the bribes, fees, whatever, on the back end as they rebuild.

This building is a failure on many levels and I suspect some in the Federal Government simply want to get rid of it. They just need an excuse.

It's a white elephant.

Monumental architecture is always a crap shoot. People are generally more comfortable in places that have grown organically. They don't need high profile architects telling them how to live and work.

The federal and city governments could easily take back the plaza. It's telling that they don't.

Looking around the city there are several buildings that could easily be repurposed as federal offices and it seems to me that's the unspoken plan.



NBachers

(18,108 posts)
2. I had to wait at the 7th & Mission MUNI stop directly in front of the Federal Building. It was scary
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 12:06 PM
Aug 2023

I've got a long history of working in Tenderloin buildings; I visit Vietnamese and other favorite little restaurants in the neighborhood. I can go pretty much anywhere and not feel in danger or intimidated. But I'll do whatever I can to avoid using that bus stop again. It was a revolting experience.

Maybe - maybe - a "protective zone" or "impact zone" could be established around the Federal properties where criminal activity is elevated to a Federal offense. The City itself seems paralyzed to do anything effective about these problems.

I've been re-assessing my empathetic liberal views in the face of the devastation that's being wrought downtown.

dem4decades

(11,887 posts)
7. Crime is going to be a big problem for the Democrats, it's everywhere and the GOP will
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 01:29 PM
Aug 2023

try to tie it around Democrats necks.

dem4decades

(11,887 posts)
11. Yes but the crime spree I'm talking about is inner city youths and gangs. Big problem around
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 03:13 PM
Aug 2023

here and everyone is affected. Car break ins, cars stolen, the young drivers driving the stolen cars dangerously, crashing them and then running away. Just last week a gun fight spilled out from a city street onto the local interstate shutting down the highway for hours. That shit is on the news all the time, (you know the old, if it bleeds it leads). Republicans love to blame the Democrats for that and with it just might stick.

NBachers

(18,108 posts)
12. If you see Kamala or Gavin running, it'll be California homeless & drug casualties 24/7.
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 05:27 PM
Aug 2023

"This is Kamala's (or Gavin's) plan for America. Vote Republican"

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
15. Don't forget what the news team uncovered decades ago:
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:28 PM
Aug 2023

Asking derelict looking disembarkers at SF Greyhound:
"How did you get the ticket here?"
"Uh... duh... well... they gave me ten dollars and the tickets when I got out of jail in Frozen Dog, Idaho."
The likes from far too many of the sort.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
14. Regular trips into the city
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:22 PM
Aug 2023

I don't even think about disembarking 7th and Mission for decades now. It was already getting bad news in the 80's living nearby. But we still went there for Taqueria Pancho Villa. It's a damn shame now, and gone are the days I'll stay overnight re: break-ins.
That said, using good street smarts outside of that zone I immensely enjoy my junkets there and plan on doing some Castro, Japantown or the beach aside from business while there: odd perk with climate change... sunny summer days near Sutro Baths.

CountAllVotes

(21,048 posts)
18. I worked at 450 Golden Gate Ave. for several years
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 04:15 AM
Aug 2023

I was there when Moscone/Milk were assassinated.

The building was put on lock-down, I remember that much.

It was a hazardous place to work due to asbestos.

I was so glad when I found a different job in a different part of the City.

Wow did that place ever suck and that was in 1978!



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