Gordon Ramsey's show is a - IMO - a weak knockoff of Irvine's show.

Too much of Ramsey's crazy tantrums/antics (i.e., swearing; throwing food; gagging; scolding; etc) are featured and they use the last 15 minutes of the show to miraculously solve any restaurant issues which - again IMO - seemed contrived and seem unresolved and unbelievable.

At least Irvine would work with the owners and analyze the business - and teach the people how to correctly run the business. He would work with the chef(s) and teach them new recipes and actually show how to prepare them; and at the end of the show he would tell you if the restaurant survived and how they are doing. You would actually see the effects and results.

In Nightmares - the restaurant overnight gets renovated (no decorating team renovating or cleaning or transforming); a table shows the new dishes he suggests (no actual preparing of the new recipes he suggests); no emphasis on correct food purchasing habits and all the attention is on him versus the people that run the restaurant. It's too fake for me. And the emphasis is on Ramsey and not the people that own and run the restaurant. Ramsey has gone too Hollywood.

Irvine's show was very realistic. He'd show how a dirty kitchen was cleaned; how he helped with a new menu; how they redecorated the restaurant; how he made the business more efficient with computer technology and simple shifting of people's responsibilities within the establishment.

With Irvine's show one learned how to run a restaurant business. Which again in my humble opinion is a great teaching element for anyone who would like to get into the restaurant business or anyone that has a restaurant to pick up some tips and tidbits to run their business more efficiently.

Ramsey is all blow and show with no real substance.

I think the Food Network made a mistake by cancelling Restaurant Impossible.

justaprogressive

(2,426 posts)

4. Ramsey generates ad revenue

Reply to global1 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 13, 2023, 10:52 AM

Oct 2023

Robert Irvine generated good will...

Which would they choose?

BigmanPigman

(52,216 posts)

7. Robert Irvine and his designers were helpful

Reply to global1 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 13, 2023, 08:21 PM

Oct 2023

Sometime he had to be tough to break through to them and get to the root of the problems before they can plan a realistic outcome.

Two restaurants near me were made over by Irvine and the people in the community who helped out with the renovation all said he was 100% genuine and the way we see him on TV is how he really is and how he works and interacts off camera.

I saw Ramsey only a few times and I don't like his attitude in the kitchen. It is not necessary and I am not into abusing the kitchen staff by ego maniacal chefs. He is an excellent chef in his own kitchen but as a boss in his restaurant but he is a nightmare.

I've watched Iron Chef Japan, the original show filmed in Japan beginning in 2001, before all the US celebrity chef BS.. Bobby Flay was an ass and my opinion he never has changed. Morimoto was good and not a show off.

I've also watched every episode of Anthony Bourdain's shows since 2000 (A Cook's Tour, No Reservations, and Parts Unknown) and was one of the first viewers to be able to get educated in world wide foods and cultures. He was never an ass to his staff and he was pissed off whenever he saw the staff in restaurants being mistreated and he defended the staffs.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,762 posts)

6. Damn, sorry to see that.

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 13, 2023, 08:08 PM

Oct 2023

I liked that show. As posted above, it was realistic, good and one could learn a lot from it.

I've been to a few of the places redone and they were all good.

Lunabell

(6,781 posts)

5. Kitchen Nightmares

Reply to global1 (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2023, 11:04 AM

Oct 2023

I adore Gordon Ramsay.

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