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marble falls

(61,996 posts)
4. From Wiki ...
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 08:34 AM
Jun 2023

Town Musicians of Bremen


Coordinates: 53.076181°N 8.807528°E
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"The Bremen Town Musicians" redirects here. For the 1969 Soviet film, see The Bremen Town Musicians (film).


The "Town Musicians of Bremen" (German: Die Bremer Stadtmusikanten) is a German fairy tale collected by the Brothers Grimm and published in Grimms' Fairy Tales in 1819 (KHM 27).[1]

It tells the story of four aging domestic animals, who after a lifetime of hard work are neglected and mistreated by their former masters. Eventually, they decide to run away and become town musicians in the city of Bremen. Contrary to the story's title the characters never arrive in Bremen, as they succeed in tricking and scaring off a band of robbers, capturing their spoils, and moving into their house. It is a story of Aarne–Thompson Type 130 ("Outcast animals find a new home&quot .[1]
Origin

The Brothers Grimm first published this tale in the second edition of Kinder- und Hausmärchen in 1819, based on the account of the German storyteller Dorothea Viehmann (1755–1815).[1]
Synopsis

In the story, a donkey, a dog, a cat, and a rooster, all past their prime years in life and usefulness on their respective farms, were soon to be discarded or mistreated by their masters. One by one, they leave their homes and set out together. They decide to go to Bremen, known for its freedom, to live without owners and become musicians there ("Something better than death we can find anywhere&quot .

On the way to Bremen, they see a lighted cottage; they look inside and see three robbers enjoying their ill-gotten gains. Standing on each other's backs, they decide to scare the robbers away by making a din; the men run for their lives, not knowing what the strange sound is. The animals take possession of the house, eat a good meal, and settle in for the evening.

Later that night, the robbers return and send one of their members in to investigate. He sees the cat's eyes shining in the darkness and thinks he is seeing the coals of the fire. The robber reaches over to light his candle. Things happen in quick succession; the cat scratches his face with her claws, the dog bites him on the leg, the donkey kicks him with his hooves, and the rooster crows and chases him out the door. The terrified robber tells his companions that he was beset by a horrible witch who had scratched him with her long fingernails (the cat), a dwarf who has a knife (the dog), a black monster who had hit him with a club (the donkey), and worst of all, a judge calling out from the rooftop (the rooster). The robbers abandon the cottage to the strange creatures who have taken it, where the animals live happily for the rest of their days.

In the original version of this story, which dates from the twelfth century, the robbers are a bear, a lion, and a wolf, all animals featured in heraldic devices. When the donkey and his friends arrive in Bremen, the townsfolk applaud them for having rid the district of the terrible beasts. An alternate version involves the animals' master(s) being deprived of his livelihood (because the thieves stole his money and/or destroyed his farm or mill) and having to send his or their animals away, unable to take care of them any further. After the animals dispatch the thieves, they take the ill-gotten gains back to their master so he can rebuild. Other versions involve at least one wild, non-livestock animal, such as a lizard, helping the domestic animals out in dispatching the thieves.[2]
Analysis
Tale type

The tale is classified in the international Aarne-Thompson-Uther Index as type ATU 130, "The Animals in Night Quarters (Bremen Town Musicians)".[3][4] Folklorists Stith Thompson and Barre Toelken see a deep relation between this type and type ATU 210, "Cock (Rooster), Hen, Duck, Pin, and Needle on a Journey".[5][6]

Folklorist Antti Aarne proposed an Asian origin for the tale type ATU 130, "Die Tiere auf der Wanderschaft" ("Wandering Animals and Objects&quot .[7][8]

French folklorist Paul Delarue identified two forms of the tale type: a Western one, wherein the animals in exile are always domestic animals (represented by Grimm's tale), and an Eastern one, wherein the characters are "inferior animals".[9] This second form is popular in Japan, China, Korea, Melanesia and Indonesia.[10]
Variants
Illustration by Walter Crane

The story is similar to other AT-130 tales like the German/Swiss "The Robber and the Farm Animals", the Norwegian "The Sheep and the Pig Who Set Up House", the Finnish "The Animals and the Devil", the Flemish "The Choristers of St. Gudule", the Scottish "The Story of the White Pet", the English "The Bull, the Tup, the Cock, and the Steg", the Irish "Jack and His Comrades", the Spanish "Benibaire", the American "How Jack Went to Seek His Fortune" and "The Dog, the Cat, the Ass, and the Cock", and the South African "The World's Reward".[1]

Joseph Jacobs also cited this as a parallel version of the Irish "Jack and His Comrades",[11] and the English "How Jack went to seek his fortune".[12] Variants also appears in American folktale collections,[13] and in Scottish Traveller repertoires.[14]

Variants also appear in tale compilations from Indian, Malay and Japanese sources.



We had it on a children's record with sound effects. We loved it. My mother finally hid it. We also saw the 'soviet' film on Capt Kangagoo several times.

2naSalit

(92,341 posts)
9. well...
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:34 AM
Jun 2023

Since you put it like that! I was thinking somewhere in France, based solely on the rooster motifs.

marble falls

(61,996 posts)
10. The fifties were such a great time to be a kid. I never realized there was a Korean war until ...
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:41 AM
Jun 2023

... the sixties in school. The Breman Animal Orchestra is high light from my childhood.

2naSalit

(92,341 posts)
11. I remeber the story...
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:50 AM
Jun 2023

Somewhat. But I knew about all the wars when I was pretty young... military dad who fought in some of them.

marble falls

(61,996 posts)
13. My folks were divorced by then, my dad was a Marine, and we lived in my grandparent's home.
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 10:10 AM
Jun 2023

... I had a magical childhood. Didn't see my dad again till the late fifties.

CrispyQ

(38,131 posts)
2. Don't know the town, but the photos are wonderful!
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 08:24 AM
Jun 2023

I was born in the year of the rooster.

Looks like a fabulous vacation!

Yonnie3

(18,086 posts)
5. It looks like Bremen, Germany
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 08:35 AM
Jun 2023

Last edited Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:35 AM - Edit history (1)

I went there for work about ten times in the 90s. There was a firm there that made customized packaging and wrapping machines for CD jewel boxes.

I liked walking around that city. The Schnoor with its narrow streets, sitting by the river and seeing the river barges motor by, as well as eating in the many fine restaurants, often at the machine builder's expense. I stayed at a hotel just off the town square near the carillon (Glockenspiel House).

Response to Old Crank (Original post)

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
7. Oh to be so well traveled as to identify a city by it's sculpture.
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:20 AM
Jun 2023

I'm at a loss but enjoy your travels vicariously.

CaliforniaPeggy

(151,892 posts)
12. As soon as I saw that first donkey, I knew it was Bremen, my dear Old Crank!
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 09:50 AM
Jun 2023

I'd forgotten the details of the story but reading your post brought all of that back.

Wonderful photos!

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