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I've been taking a painting class and did this still life. (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 OP
Lovely... Raster Nov 2019 #1
Damned fine! Brava! fierywoman Nov 2019 #2
That's beautiful! samir.g Nov 2019 #3
Get -- OUTTA here!! Croney Nov 2019 #4
Exactly. efhmc Dec 2019 #118
Wow, that's beautiful! Ohiogal Nov 2019 #5
That's beautiful! femmedem Nov 2019 #6
Fantastic painting. You nailed it! Looks real. Love the composition OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #7
Thanks! It's oil. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #18
My fingers can feel the inside of the dangling peel, soldierant Nov 2019 #109
This is not your first, is it? Perseus Dec 2019 #119
It wasn't my first, but it was my first attempt at direct painting. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #136
its the dutch masters thing. nt msongs Nov 2019 #8
Our instructor is totally into the Dutch masters. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #16
I spent last year working in Manhattan MLAA Nov 2019 #93
I'm working on painting one of my cats right now. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #95
I love painting their eyes MLAA Nov 2019 #98
My cousin is a 'Master' who teaches... WePurrsevere Nov 2019 #65
My instructor teaches those techniques also. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #135
It's a fascinating process for sure. Hopefully... WePurrsevere Dec 2019 #140
Excellent work, so lifelike. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #9
Oil. The instructor had us mix the colors. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #17
Appealing! n/t Harker Nov 2019 #10
Yes! LakeArenal Nov 2019 #29
I wonder whether there's a deeper meaning. Harker Nov 2019 #42
🍊 LakeArenal Nov 2019 #43
LOL Perseus Dec 2019 #120
Overthinking is rarely an issue for me. Harker Dec 2019 #124
Wow! Awesome! n/t livetohike Nov 2019 #11
Wow! Thanks for sharing it with us. flor-de-jasmim Nov 2019 #12
Absolutely beautiful!!! You should be teaching class. Very impressive. cornball 24 Nov 2019 #13
I'm still learning, long way to go, but thank you. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #19
That's beautiful! Great job! CaptainTruth Nov 2019 #14
Where are the happy little trees ? :D nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2019 #15
I love it! lunatica Nov 2019 #20
I can't take credit for the composition, but thanks for the kind words! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #21
Wow! That is beautifully done! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #22
You're good! bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #23
Holy shit Velveteen! MLAA Nov 2019 #24
Thanks! I have a very good instructor. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #25
Great work. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #26
The classes paid off! sandensea Nov 2019 #27
Wonderful! pandr32 Nov 2019 #28
Nice. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #30
I like oils because you can fix mistakes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #32
Ah, hadn't thought of that. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #102
Very nice. Post more, please. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #31
That is excellent. Carravagio-esque if I remember from art history... Long time ago (sigh) Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #33
I took a whack at Caravaggio, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #39
check out his still life images of fruit. The use of shadow, particularly. Again, nicely done! Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #74
Wow!! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2019 #123
Beautiful, and also very subtle metaphor. SeattleVet Nov 2019 #34
I guess that's one way to think of it, but it was just an art class assignment! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #38
Pretty dang good and pretty realistic. It actually looks very real and I thought at first you ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #35
This is so good, I can't even believe my eyes!! Leghorn21 Nov 2019 #36
Thanks! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #41
There is no question, you are a painter. braddy Nov 2019 #37
from another artist....well done! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #40
Yikes!! hwmnbn Nov 2019 #44
I can almost smell the citrus, well done irisblue Nov 2019 #45
Indeed! What she said ⬆⬆ Duppers Nov 2019 #57
looks like a Rembrandt. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2019 #46
I come from a family of good artists. You are extremely talented. OregonBlue Nov 2019 #47
Nice! 2naSalit Nov 2019 #48
Obviously not your fist canvas or lesson. marble falls Nov 2019 #49
It's my retirement hobby. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #51
I teach and its more expert than anything I've done. marble falls Nov 2019 #68
Amazing! But the poor orange just got minimum wedge! Beakybird Nov 2019 #50
Very nice. Martin Eden Nov 2019 #52
I feel like I could reach in, finish... 3catwoman3 Nov 2019 #53
I suddenly Liberalhammer Nov 2019 #54
Just Wow! McKim Nov 2019 #55
The details, coloring,... Duppers Nov 2019 #56
Thanks! I have to give credit to the instructor who was breathing down my neck, though. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #58
That is wonderful! mnhtnbb Nov 2019 #59
Fantastic! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #60
Excellent! Really truly excellent! n/t moonscape Nov 2019 #61
That's you???? lisa58 Nov 2019 #62
It's not actually me; it's an orange. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #64
No, it's you - we only create aspects of ourselves lisa58 Nov 2019 #70
Heh heh. Collimator Nov 2019 #103
How do you coerce your models to disrobe? KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #63
Very nice LyndaG Nov 2019 #66
You've got some talent lillypaddle Nov 2019 #67
Very very nice! krispos42 Nov 2019 #69
Very nice, beautiful work. wendyb-NC Nov 2019 #71
That's remarkable! PatSeg Nov 2019 #72
I couldn't take a photo that nice grantcart Nov 2019 #73
I took another seminar on how to photograph still life arrangements for painting. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #76
Amazing. What an eye for light you have. applegrove Nov 2019 #75
I can't take credit for the lighting. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #141
You did a good job. Pat yourself on the back. applegrove Dec 2019 #142
Nice!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #77
very nice! handmade34 Nov 2019 #78
Very impressive Van Velveteen! yonder Nov 2019 #79
Wow !!!! Alliepoo Nov 2019 #80
much better still life to do. i so hated still lifes. 1 semester. you get burnt umber & dk blue. pansypoo53219 Nov 2019 #81
I'm impressed - beautiful! Crabby Appleton Nov 2019 #82
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2019 #83
Love the lighting variation n/t hibbing Nov 2019 #84
That's incredible! Docreed2003 Nov 2019 #85
great work IcyPeas Nov 2019 #86
Six colors plus black and white. We did have to make our own orange. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #92
Absollutely beautiful homegirl Nov 2019 #87
Wow! Blue_playwright Nov 2019 #88
Lovely! mahina Nov 2019 #89
Magnifique! How long you been painting? It's like Chardin, Fantin-Latour appalachiablue Nov 2019 #90
*blush* Thank you! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #96
Wow! That is fantastic. BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #91
Thanks! I did have an instructor watching over me, though. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #94
That may have a certain amount of influence on the BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #97
A masterpiece! diva77 Nov 2019 #99
omg deek Nov 2019 #100
holy shit thats good!!!! samnsara Nov 2019 #101
... flying rabbit Nov 2019 #104
DUTCH MASTERS FTW n/t Lulu KC Nov 2019 #105
Wow this is amazing! LiberalLoner Nov 2019 #106
Fabulous Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #107
Beautiful!!! still_one Nov 2019 #108
You obviously have ''the gift''. Awesome. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #110
That is excellent. Great light and detail. JDC Nov 2019 #111
Very nicely done! Nitram Nov 2019 #112
What happened to the bar code sticker? hay rick Nov 2019 #113
Beautiful! dflprincess Nov 2019 #114
Hot damm! So fine! 👍 sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #115
Photographic realism. calimary Dec 2019 #116
So realistic. Scarsdale Dec 2019 #117
Wow! That's stunning! highplainsdem Dec 2019 #121
Gorgeous! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2019 #122
I, too, started painting in retirement - at the suggestion of my very supportive spouse. PWPippinesq Dec 2019 #125
Very beautiful ! Desert_Leslie Dec 2019 #126
I can smell the orange... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2019 #127
Very nice. bluescribbler Dec 2019 #128
Most excellent! CrispyQ Dec 2019 #129
Beautiful work! karin_sj Dec 2019 #130
Wow! Impressive. Please tell me you've been painting for a quite some time already so I KPN Dec 2019 #131
The important thing is good instruction to get a good foundation. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #132
Oooo! Gorgeous! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2019 #133
Very nice! You've got a lot of talent bif Dec 2019 #134
It's wonderful. Evocative. zentrum Dec 2019 #137
very nice Demovictory9 Dec 2019 #138
Wow!!! colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #139
Wonderful! ashling Dec 2019 #143

femmedem

(8,429 posts)
6. That's beautiful!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:21 PM
Nov 2019

Congratulations! I've been painting too, after having not painted for several decades. Your work is inspiring.

soldierant

(7,823 posts)
109. My fingers can feel the inside of the dangling peel,
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 09:13 PM
Nov 2019

and I can't even see it, except for a little edge at the top.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
119. This is not your first, is it?
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:02 AM
Dec 2019

If so then Rembrandt must be possessing your body while you paint. There is very advanced technique used, so I have to think you have been painting for some time.

The reason I bring Rembrandt up is because of the dark colors, the dark backgrounds. I am an artist myself and I read a lot of art every day, it is my passion, so I can see the results are not that of a beginner. I do mostly portraits, and once in a while, when I can't sleep I will get my acrylics out and do some contemporary stuff, quite the opposite from the realism of my portraits.

Keep it up, you definitely have the technique and the talent. Oh, and the patience to do still life.

If you don't mind telling, where was the class taught?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
136. It wasn't my first, but it was my first attempt at direct painting.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:58 PM
Dec 2019

This was the product of a short seminar in which we were taught how to prepare the canvas, do the preliminary drawing, given some paint to mix our own colors and then complete the painting, all in four days, without the paint ever drying. Everything I'd done before was in a once-a-week class where the paint would dry so I'd paint in layers and use glazes (traditional techniques, including verdaccio). I've been afraid to do portaits because it's so hard to get the eyes to point in the same direction.

The classes are at a small art school called The Art Academy in St. Paul, MN. If there's anybody in the area who wants to learn to draw and paint in a structured, traditional way that emphasizes learning basic techniques first, I can't recommend them highly enough.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
16. Our instructor is totally into the Dutch masters.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:32 PM
Nov 2019

He handed out the paint and had us mix the colors we wanted. It was a great exercise.

MLAA

(18,570 posts)
93. I spent last year working in Manhattan
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:39 PM
Nov 2019

I came out of retirement so I could live there and enjoy all the art. My favorite section was the Dutch masters. What they did with the tables of glass ware and silver servicing dishes (with the obligatory fruit) kept me spellbound. I started lessons a few years ago when I first retired and got hooked on painting my friends cats and dogs 😬

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
95. I'm working on painting one of my cats right now.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:40 PM
Nov 2019

Maybe I'll do all three of them. Fur is challenging.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
65. My cousin is a 'Master' who teaches...
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:11 PM
Nov 2019

how to paint in the style of the old masters. The paintings her students create using this technique, often from a photograph, are just amazing in how realistic they are.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
135. My instructor teaches those techniques also.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:12 PM
Dec 2019

The orange wasn't done that way - that was direct painting done over only a few days - but he teaches an entire course on Renaissance painting techniques. It takes a long time to do one because they have many layers, but you can get really good results if you do it the old-fashioned way. Those old guys knew what they were doing.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
140. It's a fascinating process for sure. Hopefully...
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 05:28 PM
Dec 2019

I'll be able to take her up on her offer for me to visit and her to teach me next year.

Harker

(14,808 posts)
42. I wonder whether there's a deeper meaning.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:11 PM
Nov 2019

Something orange... coming undone and being revealed...

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
120. LOL
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:04 AM
Dec 2019

I have to confess that it took me a while to get it...excellent...

At 1st I thought "this person is thinking too much about the painting", then I got it and started laughing hard...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. I love it!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:37 PM
Nov 2019

You met the challenge very well! It just draws you right in to the distinct elements from your use of colors to create a distinct contrast, to your depiction of hard surfaces with straight lines in combined with the soft glowing and fluid lines of the fruit. Your composition is noteworthy too. The fruit is just off center which to me gives the painting just a touch of visual tension to hold the viewer.

MLAA

(18,570 posts)
24. Holy shit Velveteen!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:44 PM
Nov 2019

It is gorgeous. You have real talent! I mean true professional artist talent! Keep going!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
25. Thanks! I have a very good instructor.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:46 PM
Nov 2019

I'm keeping at it. Some paintings are turning out better than others, of course.

sandensea

(22,850 posts)
27. The classes paid off!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:48 PM
Nov 2019

Great Chiaroscuro! You must've been a Dutch master in a past life, I dare say.

Thank you for sharing this - and Kudos!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,018 posts)
30. Nice.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:53 PM
Nov 2019

The only time I tried oils was in middle school and all I could think to do was outline and fill in my subjects. I did some drawings that weren't so bad, some reasonably not horrible watercolors, a sculpture I liked, and have done some not bad graphics work. But I never tried oils again!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
32. I like oils because you can fix mistakes.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:56 PM
Nov 2019

You just let the paint dry and paint over whatever didn't work. You can't fix mistakes in a water color. Take another shot at oils. They are a little messy but very versatile.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,018 posts)
102. Ah, hadn't thought of that.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:25 PM
Nov 2019

However, as bad as mine was, if would've taken a hell of a lot of painting over! Yours is in a professional looking style. Mine was like a coloring book, and not in the nice Japanese style way.

Evolve Dammit

(18,481 posts)
33. That is excellent. Carravagio-esque if I remember from art history... Long time ago (sigh)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:57 PM
Nov 2019

Seriously, well done!

SeattleVet

(5,582 posts)
34. Beautiful, and also very subtle metaphor.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

The orange with its thin veneer of protection unraveling can also be seen as a subliminal message related to current impeachment activities.

Well done!!!

SWBTATTReg

(24,011 posts)
35. Pretty dang good and pretty realistic. It actually looks very real and I thought at first you ...
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

were into photography, I thought it was an actual photo of a peeled orange. Wow...amazing!

McKim

(2,412 posts)
55. Just Wow!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:43 PM
Nov 2019

Just wow!!!!! This is right up there with the old masters! Good for you, we can’t focus on Trump and republicans all the time, it will make us sick.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
58. Thanks! I have to give credit to the instructor who was breathing down my neck, though.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:48 PM
Nov 2019

Sometimes you need an extra pair of educated eyes to show you what you're missing.

mnhtnbb

(32,008 posts)
59. That is wonderful!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:49 PM
Nov 2019

I have been moving and just finished hanging a painting a friend did for me several years ago ( on commission). She took up painting in her retirement, too. You may have a second career opportunity available!


BumRushDaShow

(141,451 posts)
60. Fantastic!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:54 PM
Nov 2019


My mom used to do oil painting as a hobby when we were little. The last technique she was learning was painting with a pallet knife before she eventually put it all aside to raise us. But I grew up with a huge easel, a bunch of blank canvases, and tubes of "Grumbacher" around the house (and that was a name that still swirls in my brain even today).

Collimator

(1,852 posts)
103. Heh heh.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 08:28 PM
Nov 2019

It's beautiful. Yes, it's realistic almost like a photograph. But somehow it is more. . . . enchanting than a photograph.

Yes, that's it. It is a transcendent orange. And you have painter's magic.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,595 posts)
63. How do you coerce your models to disrobe?
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:02 PM
Nov 2019

Of course, this is only partial nudity........

Great job TVO and no better diversion and emotional relief in retirement during these tumultuous times.

I love the way you use shadowing, just like your Clarence Darrow......

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
76. I took another seminar on how to photograph still life arrangements for painting.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:50 PM
Nov 2019

That, itself, is an art, and it's more complicated than I expected.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
141. I can't take credit for the lighting.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:35 PM
Dec 2019

So that we'd be able to keep painting the subject with consistent lighting and from the same aspect, the instructor had us use a photograph as a model instead of "live" objects. Having also tried to paint "live" still lifes in another seminar I don't think one way of doing it is easier or harder than the other, but for the purposes of this class it made more sense to use a photo. So that's really to the photographer's credit, not mine.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,530 posts)
77. Nice!!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:52 PM
Nov 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

yonder

(10,002 posts)
79. Very impressive Van Velveteen!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:53 PM
Nov 2019

The object takes it's rightful place (and my eye) but you really nailed the light and shadow.

pansypoo53219

(21,686 posts)
81. much better still life to do. i so hated still lifes. 1 semester. you get burnt umber & dk blue.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 06:54 PM
Nov 2019

but then i discovered prussian blue. so much better than ultramarine.

IcyPeas

(22,567 posts)
86. great work
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:10 PM
Nov 2019

so when you say you were given colors to mix your own....

so were you given.... red and yellow to make your own oranges for example?

also how big is it?

great painting!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
92. Six colors plus black and white. We did have to make our own orange.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:37 PM
Nov 2019

The instructor said that if you're not sure what color something is, it's probably orange. I found I had to add more red than I expected to get a proper orange orange.

Blue_playwright

(1,573 posts)
88. Wow!
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:20 PM
Nov 2019

I’ve always wished I had some artistic talent. I can write but that’s it! That is gorgeous and I love the second portrait you posted, as well.

BigmanPigman

(52,211 posts)
91. Wow! That is fantastic.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nov 2019

I am a pretty tough art critic too. I got my BFA (Bach Fine Arts) degree and that is better than what I have seen from when I was in art school, and even after art school. Well done!!!

BigmanPigman

(52,211 posts)
97. That may have a certain amount of influence on the
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 07:43 PM
Nov 2019

painting but it is obvious to me that you have a lot of real talent, instructor standing behind you or not.

PWPippinesq

(195 posts)
125. I, too, started painting in retirement - at the suggestion of my very supportive spouse.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 AM
Dec 2019

What a lovely painting! You captured the texture and light so well. I, too, painted, in a series of classes, a still life of clementines. I live in Maine and, of course, have enjoyed painting land and seascapes. However, since I like painting from life rather than photographs, still lifes in our long dark winters became my focus with citrus and pears being my favored subjects. Enjoy the exploration.

CrispyQ

(38,140 posts)
129. Most excellent!
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:38 AM
Dec 2019


While not my favorite color, I love orange. It adds fabulous pop to everything! I've been dabbling in watercolor & haven't painted anything half that nice. Keep it up!

KPN

(16,070 posts)
131. Wow! Impressive. Please tell me you've been painting for a quite some time already so I
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:17 AM
Dec 2019

don't feel inadequate.

Does it have a title yet? A suggestion "tRump Early Winter 2019".

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,472 posts)
132. The important thing is good instruction to get a good foundation.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:31 AM
Dec 2019

I did a fair amount of drawing and painting when I was very young, didn't do much for years, went back to it as a retiree but in a guided course. I learned that you can't just sit down and paint, but that you have to learn about basic drawing, how to prepare a canvas, color theory, brush technique, etc., so I've been taking a basic drawing and painting class for the last few years, just learning those things. I still feel inadequate compared to a lot of other students in the class. We start learning about oil painting by copying one of the old masters and starting from scratch with an underpainting and adding layers, light over dark. The main point the instructor makes is that anyone can draw and paint well but you need to learn a lot of basic stuff first. I'd highly recommend a structured class.

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